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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>, carlos <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:07:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181126170758.GP23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1284855405.12857.1543249851299.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:30:51AM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:51 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com wrote:
> 
> > ----- On Nov 26, 2018, at 3:28 AM, Florian Weimer fweimer@redhat.com wrote:
> > 
> >> * Mathieu Desnoyers:
> >> 
> >>> Using a "weak" symbol in early adopter libraries is important, so they
> >>> can be loaded together into the same process without causing loader
> >>> errors due to many definitions of the same strong symbol.
> >> 
> >> This is not how ELF dynamic linking works.  If the symbol name is the
> >> same, one definition interposes the others.
> >> 
> >> You need to ensure that the symbol has the same size everywhere, though.
> >> There are some tricky interactions with symbol versions, too.  (The
> >> interposing libraries must not use symbol versioning.)
> > 
> > I was under the impression that loading the same strong symbol into an
> > application multiple times would cause some kind of warning if non-weak. I did
> > some testing to figure out which case I remembered would cause this.
> > 
> > When compiling with "-fno-common", dynamic and static linking work fine, but
> > trying to add multiple instances of a given symbol into a single object fails
> > with:
> > 
> > /tmp/ccSakXZV.o:(.bss+0x0): multiple definition of `a'
> > /tmp/ccQBJBOo.o:(.bss+0x0): first defined here
> > 
> > Even if the symbol has the same size.
> > 
> > So considering that we don't care about compiling into a single object here,
> > and only care about static and dynamic linking of libraries, indeed the "weak"
> > symbol is not useful.
> > 
> > So let's make __rseq_abi and __rseq_refcount strong symbols then ?
> 
> Actually, looking into ld(1) --warn-common, it looks like "weak" would be cleaner
> after all, especially for __rseq_abi which we needs to be initialized to a specific
> value, which is therefore not a common symbol.
> 
> "      --warn-common
>            Warn when a common symbol is combined with another common symbol or with a symbol definition.  Unix
>            linkers allow this somewhat sloppy practice, but linkers on some other operating systems do not.
>            This option allows you to find potential problems from combining global symbols.  Unfortunately,
>            some C libraries use this practice, so you may get some warnings about symbols in the libraries as
>            well as in your programs."
> 
> Thoughts ?

AFAIK this has nothing to do with dynamic linking.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-26 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 18:39 Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-21 18:39 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/5] glibc: sched_getcpu(): use rseq cpu_id TLS on Linux Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 14:36 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:11     ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:17       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:21         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:33           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:44             ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 16:24             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 18:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 19:01                 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 19:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:14     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 16:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:59             ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 17:10               ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 13:10                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 14:28                   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:05                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 17:30                       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:39                         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 17:44                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 18:01                             ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 17:52                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 18:35                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 21:09                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26  8:28                               ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 15:51                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:03                                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 17:10                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-26 19:22                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-12-03 21:30                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:30                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 17:07                                     ` Rich Felker [this message]
2018-12-05 17:24                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 11:56                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 17:29               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 13:29                 ` Florian Weimer

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