From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
"Clark, Rob" <robdclark@gmail.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
vivek.gautam@codeaurora.org,
freedreno <freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] drm: msm: Replace dma_map_sg with dma_sync_sg*
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:46:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181130094604.GV21184@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181129183334.GB30281@lst.de>
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 07:33:34PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 06:09:05PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > What kind of abuse do you expect? It could very well be that gpu folks
> > call that "standard use case" ... At least on x86 with the i915 driver
> > we pretty much rely on architectural guarantees for how cache flushes
> > work very much. Down to userspace doing the cache flushing for
> > mappings the kernel has set up.
>
> Mostly the usual bypasses of the DMA API because people know better
> (and with that I don't mean low-level IOMMU API users, but "creative"
> direct mappings).
Ah yes. I think that even gpu folks get behind :-) Best if someone
bothered to explicitly cast to dma_addr_t to shut up the tools, but not
fix the bug ...
> > > As for the buffer sharing: at least for the DMA API side I want to
> > > move the current buffer sharing users away from dma_alloc_coherent
> > > (and coherent dma_alloc_attrs users) and the remapping done in there
> > > required for non-coherent architectures. Instead I'd like to allocate
> > > plain old pages, and then just dma map them for each device separately,
> > > with DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC passed for all but the first user to map
> > > or last user to unmap. On the iommu side it could probably work
> > > similar.
> >
> > I think this is what's often done. Except then there's also the issue
> > of how to get at the cma allocator if your device needs something
> > contiguous. There's a lot of that still going on in graphics/media.
>
> Being able to dip into CMA and mayb iommu coalescing if we want to
> get fancy is indeed the only reason for this API. If we just wanted
> to map pages we could already do that now with just a little bit
> of boilerplate code (and quite a few drivers do - just adding this
> new API will remove tons of code).
Sounds like the future is very bright indeed \o/
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-30 9:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-29 14:03 Vivek Gautam
2018-11-29 14:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 14:25 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 14:42 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:48 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 19:40 ` Jordan Crouse
2018-11-29 19:57 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 20:03 ` Robin Murphy
2018-11-30 0:23 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-01 2:05 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-12-01 11:46 ` Rob Clark
2018-12-03 0:12 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 14:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 15:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 16:28 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 16:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 17:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-29 17:24 ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-29 18:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:57 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-30 9:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-30 9:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-11-30 9:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 9:46 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2018-12-07 1:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-12-07 14:29 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-29 17:33 ` Brian Starkey
2018-11-29 18:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-30 1:15 ` Rob Clark
2018-11-30 9:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 15:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-29 18:44 ` Rob Clark
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