From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A39BC04EB8 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8E520666 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:10:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org CD8E520666 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1725972AbeLDJKZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Dec 2018 04:10:25 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:54536 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725769AbeLDJKZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Dec 2018 04:10:25 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F076AF3A; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:10:20 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Pavel Machek , Oleg Nesterov , Linus Torvalds , Linux List Kernel Mailing , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Chanho Min , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "exec: make de_thread() freezable (was: Re: Linux 4.20-rc4) Message-ID: <20181204091020.GD1286@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20181203074700.GA21240@gmail.com> <20181203083942.GF31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203123149.GB31795@redhat.com> <20181203123857.GS31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203131006.GA10054@amd> <20181203135351.GU31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181203141459.GA14789@amd> <20181203141737.GY31738@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20181204090228.GC73770@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181204090228.GC73770@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 04-12-18 10:02:28, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > Do we actually have reports of this happening for people outside > > > Android? > > > > Not that I am aware of. > > I'd say outside of Android 99% of the use of hibernation is the fail-safe > that distributions offer on laptops with very low battery levels: the > emergency hibernation when there's almost no power left anymore. > > Do these hibernation failure messages typically make it to persistent > logs before the system uses power? I dunno. I do not use hibernation. I am a heavy user of the suspend though. I s2ram all the time. And I have certainly experienced cases where suspend has failed and I onlyi found out later when I've picked up my laptop from my heat up bag. Nothing fatal has resulted from that but this is certainly annoying. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs