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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] printk: increase devkmsg write() ratelimit
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:37:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181218123748.3aadd16c@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181218172109.GK15430@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:21:09 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 01:52:17AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (12/18/18 16:24), Borislav Petkov wrote:  
> > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:14:55AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:  
> > > > Right, but unlike log_buf_len, devkmsg is a bit close to a "binary" knob:
> > > > either all messages or none;  
> > > 
> > > ... which is perfectly fine for a debugging session.  
> > 
> > But devkmsg ratelimits systemd errors, so one does not even know that
> > "some debugging is required". For instance from my x86 box:
> > 
> >  Unmounting /home...
> >  [..]
> >  home.mount: Mount process exited, code=exited status=32
> >  Failed unmounting /home.
> > 
> > I don't want to debug systemd, I want to know that something didn't
> > work out. 10 messages max and 5 seconds interval looks a bit too strict.  
> 
> Again, complain to system-doofus for printing so much crap to somewhere
> it should not print to begin with.

I've been saying that it would be good to make the kmsg be a separate
buffer that just gets interleaved with the kernel buffer. Userspace
processes should never be able to overwrite messages from the kernel.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-18 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-18  9:18 Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 11:17   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 11:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 13:09       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 11:47     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 13:07       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 14:26         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 14:55           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 15:03             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 15:14               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 15:24                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-18 16:52                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 17:21                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-18 17:37                       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2018-12-19  8:50                         ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-20 11:35                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-20 13:58                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-21  7:32                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 17:47                     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-12-19  1:46                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 14:02 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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