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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	paulmck@linux.ibm.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: seqcount usage in xt_replace_table()
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 13:41:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190110124123.GA21224@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190108223746.shuwx3ro7cgwz7hh@breakpoint.cc>

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 11:37:46PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Or maybe xt_replace_table() can be enhanced? When I hear that
> > something waits until an event happens on all CPUs I think about
> > wait_event() function. Would it be better for xt_replace_table() to
> > introduce an atomic counter that is decremented by CPUs, and the main
> > CPU waits until the counter gets zero?
> 
> That would mean placing an additional atomic op into the
> iptables evaluation path (ipt_do_table and friends).
> 

For:

	/*
	 * Ensure contents of newinfo are visible before assigning to
	 * private.
	 */
	smp_wmb();
	table->private = newinfo;

we have:

	smp_store_release(&table->private, newinfo);

But what store does that second smp_wmb() order against? The comment:

	/* make sure all cpus see new ->private value */
	smp_wmb();

makes no sense what so ever, no smp_*() barrier can provide such
guarantees.

> Only alternative I see that might work is synchronize_rcu (the
> _do_table functions are called with rcu read lock held).
> 
> I guess current scheme is cheaper though.

Is performance a concern in this path? There is no comment justifying
this 'creative' stuff.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-10 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-08 19:33 Anatol Pomozov
2019-01-08 22:37 ` Florian Westphal
2019-01-10 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-10 12:53     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-10 20:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-10 14:48     ` Florian Westphal
2019-01-10 20:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-10 20:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-10 22:29         ` Florian Westphal
2019-01-11  8:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-11 14:08             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-10 14:52     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-09  0:02 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-09  0:36   ` Anatol Pomozov
2019-01-09  5:35     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-09 11:24     ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-09 11:55       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-09 12:11         ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-09 12:29           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-09 17:10             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-10  8:49               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-10 12:30                 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-10 12:38                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-10 12:46                     ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-10 13:25                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-10 14:50                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-10 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-10 12:54   ` Dmitry Vyukov

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