From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
LKMM Maintainers -- Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Plain accesses and data races in the Linux Kernel Memory Model
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:57:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190116115752.GB10803@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1901151003470.1408-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:19:10AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019, Andrea Parri wrote:
>
> > Unless I'm mis-reading/-applying this definition, this will flag the
> > following test (a variation on your "race.litmus") with "data-race":
> >
> > C no-race
> >
> > {}
> >
> > P0(int *x, spinlock_t *s)
> > {
> > spin_lock(s);
> > WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1); /* A */
> > spin_unlock(s); /* B */
> > }
> >
> > P1(int *x, spinlock_t *s)
> > {
> > int r1;
> >
> > spin_lock(s); /* C */
> > r1 = *x; /* D */
> > spin_unlock(s);
> > }
> >
> > exists (1:r1=1)
> >
> > Broadly speaking, this is due to the fact that the modified "happens-
> > before" axiom does not forbid the execution with the (MP-) cycle
> >
> > A ->po-rel B ->rfe C ->acq-po D ->fre A
> >
> > and then to the link "D ->race-from-r A" here defined.
>
> Yes, that cycle certainly should be forbidden. On the other hand, we
> don't want to insist that C happens before D, given that D may not
> happen at all.
>
> This is a real problem. Can we solve it by adding a modified
> "happens-before" which says essentially that _if_ D is preserved _then_
> C happens before D? But then what about cycles involving more than one
> possibly preserved access? Or maybe a relation which says that D
> cannot execute before C (so if D executes at all, it has to come after
> C)?
The latter; there is a compiler barrier implied at the end of
spin_lock() such that anything later (in PO) must indeed be later.
> Now you see why this stuff is so difficult... At the moment, I don't
> know how to fix this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-16 11:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <20190114235426.GV1215@linux.ibm.com>
2019-01-15 7:20 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-15 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-15 15:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-15 14:25 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-15 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-16 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-16 13:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-16 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-16 21:36 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-17 15:03 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-17 20:21 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-18 15:10 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-18 15:56 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-18 16:43 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-17 19:43 ` Alan Stern
2019-01-18 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-01-22 15:47 ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-22 16:19 ` Alan Stern
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