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From: "Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)"  <krzysztof.adamski@nokia.com>
To: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@metux.net>
Cc: Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"jslaby@suse.com" <jslaby@suse.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tty: Add NULL TTY driver
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:12:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190412131156.GB28707@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb11752c-7c20-2a39-d4a7-3be7282b4144@metux.net>

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:40:56PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
>On 12.04.19 09:30, Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw) wrote:
>
>> Well, that depends. If the program doing those writes expects /dev/console
>> to be a tty device, then it cannot be any file.
>
>According to Vincent's mail, the actual problem is just systemd.
>Changing the kernel just for making one specific userland program
>(which happens to be written by somebody, who even doesn't know the
>semantics of rm -R) happy, sounds pretty strange for me.
>
>I'm not opposed to the general idea of having a dummy tty driver,
>but please for some actually sane usecases, not just working around
>broken userland :p

I don't want to start a flame but if that userspace would be written by
somebody else, would that change anything? :) Anyways, historically we
did not have many convinence usitlities in the kernel and now we do. So
does the fact that "this might be convinient but is not strictly
necessary" a blocker to get something into the kernel?

Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-12 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 11:33 Vincent Whitchurch
2019-04-03 13:12 ` Greg KH
2019-04-03 14:11   ` Vincent Whitchurch
2019-04-05  8:39     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-05  9:00       ` Vincent Whitchurch
2019-04-05 12:32         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-11 13:05           ` Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
2019-04-12  7:17             ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-12  7:34               ` Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
     [not found]               ` <0a50343e-6ebe-f725-82f7-5c127b5ce2e6@nokia.com>
2019-04-12 11:40                 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-04-12 13:12                   ` Adamski, Krzysztof (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw) [this message]
2019-04-11 15:28           ` Vincent Whitchurch
2019-04-12 11:31             ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

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