From: Daniel Walker <danielwa@cisco.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Nikunj Kela (nkela)" <nkela@cisco.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
"xe-linux-external(mailer list)" <xe-linux-external@cisco.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] igb: add parameter to ignore nvm checksum validation
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 11:09:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190517180936.nwsw7brjo2yfvnol@zorba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0Ue0b1QxG2ijegbHFz-2Wpxga0ffvhsfDg4VLDRaDSFvdw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 09:58:46AM -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > I don't think you can say because the checksum is valid that all data contained
> > inside is also valid. You can have a valid checksum , and someone screwed up the
> > data prior to the checksum getting computed.
>
> If someone screwed up the data prior to writing the checksum then that
> is on them. In theory we could also have a multi-bit error that could
> similarly be missed. However if the checksum is not valid then the
> data contained in the NVM does not match what was originally written,
> so we know we have bad data. Why should we act on the data if we know
> it is bad?
It's hypothetical , but it's likely someone has screwed up the data prior to the
checksum getting computed.
> > > We need to make the checksum a hard stop. If the part is broken then
> > > it needs to be addressed. Workarounds just end up being used and
> > > forgotten, which makes it that much harder to support the product.
> > > Better to mark the part as being broken, and get it fixed now, than to
> > > have parts start shipping that require workarounds in order to
> > > function.o
> >
> > I don't think it's realistic to define the development process for large
> > corporations like Cisco, or like what your doing , to define the development
> > process for all corporations and products which may use intel parts. It's better
> > to be flexible.
> >
> > Daniel
>
> This isn't about development. If you are doing development you can do
> whatever you want with your own downstream driver. What you are
> attempting to do is update the upstream driver which is used in
> production environments.
Cisco has this issue in development, and in production. So your right, it's not
about development in isolation. People make mistakes..
> What concerns me is when this module parameter gets used in a
> development environment and then slips into being required for a
> production environment. At that point it defeats the whole point of
> the checksum in the first place.
I agree .. Ultimately it's the choice of the OEM, if it gets into production
then it's their product and they support the product. As I was saying in a prior
email it should be a priority of the driver to give flexibility for mistakes
people will inevitably make.
Daniel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-17 18:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-08 23:14 Nikunj Kela
2019-05-16 19:35 ` Jeff Kirsher
2019-05-16 19:55 ` Nikunj Kela (nkela)
2019-05-16 22:02 ` Florian Fainelli
2019-05-16 22:33 ` Nikunj Kela (nkela)
2019-05-17 1:03 ` Daniel Walker
2019-05-17 1:48 ` Florian Fainelli
2019-05-17 15:16 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2019-05-17 16:36 ` Daniel Walker
2019-05-17 16:47 ` Florian Fainelli
2019-05-17 16:58 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-05-17 18:09 ` Daniel Walker [this message]
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