From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
Fabien Dessenne <fabien.dessenne@st.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] treewide: fix interrupted release
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:07:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191015140726.GN11828@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191014161326.GO13531@localhost>
On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 06:13:26PM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:48:47AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:36:33AM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 03:50:43PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 03:13:29PM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > > > Two old USB drivers had a bug in them which could lead to memory leaks
> > > > > if an interrupted process raced with a disconnect event.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turns out we had a few more driver in other subsystems with the same
> > > > > kind of bug in them.
> > >
> > > > Random funny idea: Could we do some debug annotations (akin to
> > > > might_sleep) that splats when you might_sleep_interruptible somewhere
> > > > where interruptible sleeps are generally a bad idea? Like in
> > > > fops->release?
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with interruptible sleep in fops->release per se,
> > > it's just that drivers cannot return -ERESTARTSYS and friends and expect
> > > to be called again later.
> >
> > Do you have a legit usecase for interruptible sleeps in fops->release?
>
> The tty layer depends on this for example when waiting for buffered
> writes to complete (something which may never happen when using flow
> control).
>
> > I'm not even sure killable is legit in there, since it's an fd, not a
> > process context ...
>
> It will be run in process context in many cases, and for ttys we're good
> AFAICT.
Huh, read it a bit, all the ->shutdown callbacks have void return type.
But there's indeed interruptible sleeps in there. Doesn't this break
userspace that expects that a close() actually flushes the tty?
Imo if you're ->release callbacks feels like it should do a wait to
guaranteed something userspace expects, then doing a
wait_interruptible/killable feels like a bug. Or alternatively, the wait
isn't really needed in the first place.
> > > The return value from release() is ignored by vfs, and adding a splat in
> > > __fput() to catch these buggy drivers might be overkill.
> >
> > Ime once you have a handful of instances of a broken pattern, creating a
> > check for it (under a debug option only ofc) is very much justified.
> > Otherwise they just come back to life like the undead, all the time. And
> > there's a _lot_ of fops->release callbacks in the kernel.
>
> Yeah, you have a point.
>
> But take tty again as an example, the close tty operation called from
> release() is declared void so there's no propagated return value for vfs
> to check.
>
> It may even be better to fix up the 100 or so callbacks potentially
> returning non-zero and make fops->release void so that the compiler
> would help us catch any future bugs and also serve as a hint for
> developers that returning errnos from fops->release is probably not
> what you want to do.
>
> But that's a lot of churn of course.
Hm indeed ->release has int as return type. I guess that's needed for
file I/O errno and similar stuff ...
Still void return value doesn't catch funny stuff like doing interruptible
waits and occasionally failing if you have a process that likes to use
signals and also uses some library somewhere to do something. In graphics
we have that, with Xorg loving signals for various things.
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-15 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-10 13:13 Johan Hovold
2019-10-10 13:13 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm/msm: fix memleak on release Johan Hovold
2019-10-30 10:01 ` Johan Hovold
2019-11-12 10:40 ` Johan Hovold
2019-11-12 14:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-11-12 16:32 ` Rob Clark
2019-11-12 20:42 ` Sean Paul
2019-10-10 13:13 ` [PATCH 2/4] media: bdisp: " Johan Hovold
2019-10-10 14:07 ` Fabien DESSENNE
2019-10-10 13:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] media: radio: wl1273: fix interrupt masking " Johan Hovold
2019-10-10 13:13 ` [PATCH 4/4] s390/zcrypt: fix memleak at release Johan Hovold
2019-10-14 6:18 ` Heiko Carstens
2019-10-10 13:50 ` [PATCH 0/4] treewide: fix interrupted release Daniel Vetter
2019-10-11 9:36 ` Johan Hovold
2019-10-14 8:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-10-14 16:13 ` Johan Hovold
2019-10-15 14:07 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2019-10-21 9:55 ` Johan Hovold
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