From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Cc: lijiang <lijiang@redhat.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] printk: replace ringbuffer
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:07:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200213130720.j4e5qv37am2bapup@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgjp9foj.fsf@linutronix.de>
On Wed 2020-02-05 17:12:12, John Ogness wrote:
> On 2020-02-05, lijiang <lijiang@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Do you have any suggestions about the size of CONFIG_LOG_* and
> > CONFIG_PRINTK_* options by default?
>
> The new printk implementation consumes more than double the memory that
> the current printk implementation requires. This is because dictionaries
> and meta-data are now stored separately.
>
> If the old defaults (LOG_BUF_SHIFT=17 LOG_CPU_MAX_BUF_SHIFT=12) were
> chosen because they are maximally acceptable defaults, then the defaults
> should be reduced by 1 so that the final size is "similar" to the
> current implementation.
>
> If instead the defaults are left as-is, a machine with less than 64 CPUs
> will reserve 336KiB for printk information (128KiB text, 128KiB
> dictionary, 80KiB meta-data).
>
> It might also be desirable to reduce the dictionary size (maybe 1/4 the
> size of text?).
Good questions. It would be great to check the usage on some real
systems.
In each case, we should inform users when messages and/or dictionaries
were lost.
Also it would be great to have a way (function) that would show how
big parts of the two ring buffers are occupied by valid data. It might
be useful also to detect problems with the ring buffer:
+ too many space reserved but not commited
+ too many records invalidated because of different ordering
in desc ring and data ring.
> However, since the new printk implementation allows for
> non-intrusive dictionaries, we might see their usage increase and start
> to be as large as the messages themselves.
I wish the dictionaries were never added ;-) They complicate the code
and nobody knows how many people actually use the information.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-13 13:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-28 16:19 John Ogness
2020-01-28 16:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk: add lockless buffer John Ogness
2020-01-29 3:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-21 11:54 ` more barriers: " Petr Mladek
2020-02-27 12:04 ` John Ogness
2020-03-04 15:08 ` Petr Mladek
2020-03-13 10:13 ` John Ogness
2020-02-21 12:05 ` misc nits " Petr Mladek
2020-03-02 10:38 ` John Ogness
2020-03-02 12:17 ` Joe Perches
2020-03-02 12:32 ` Petr Mladek
2020-03-02 13:43 ` John Ogness
2020-03-03 9:47 ` Petr Mladek
2020-03-03 15:42 ` John Ogness
2020-03-04 10:09 ` Petr Mladek
2020-03-04 9:40 ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-28 16:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] printk: use the lockless ringbuffer John Ogness
2020-02-13 9:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-13 9:42 ` John Ogness
2020-02-13 11:59 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-13 22:36 ` John Ogness
2020-02-14 1:41 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-14 2:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-14 9:48 ` John Ogness
2020-02-14 13:29 ` lijiang
2020-02-14 13:50 ` John Ogness
2020-02-15 4:15 ` lijiang
2020-02-17 15:40 ` crashdump: " Petr Mladek
2020-02-17 16:14 ` John Ogness
2020-02-17 14:41 ` misc details: " Petr Mladek
2020-02-25 20:11 ` John Ogness
2020-02-26 9:54 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-05 4:25 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk: replace ringbuffer lijiang
2020-02-05 4:42 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 4:48 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 5:02 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 5:38 ` lijiang
2020-02-05 6:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 9:00 ` John Ogness
2020-02-05 9:28 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 10:19 ` lijiang
2020-02-05 16:12 ` John Ogness
2020-02-06 9:12 ` lijiang
2020-02-13 13:07 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-02-14 1:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 11:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-05 15:48 ` John Ogness
2020-02-05 19:29 ` Joe Perches
2020-02-06 6:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-02-06 7:30 ` lijiang
2020-02-07 1:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-07 7:43 ` John Ogness
2020-02-14 15:56 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-17 11:13 ` John Ogness
2020-02-17 14:50 ` Petr Mladek
2020-02-25 19:27 ` John Ogness
2020-02-05 9:36 ` lijiang
2020-02-06 9:21 ` lijiang
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