From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>, elver@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] lib: disable KCSAN for XArray
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 13:39:46 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200305213946.GL2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200305151831.GM29971@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 07:18:31AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 06:10:21AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 08:33:56PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 08:05:15PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 07:33:29PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 10:15:51PM -0500, Qian Cai wrote:
> > > > > > Functions like xas_find_marked(), xas_set_mark(), and xas_clear_mark()
> > > > > > could happen concurrently result in data races, but those operate only
> > > > > > on a single bit that are pretty much harmless. For example,
> > > > >
> > > > > Those aren't data races. The writes are protected by a spinlock and the
> > > > > reads by the RCU read lock. If the tool can't handle RCU protection,
> > > > > it's not going to be much use.
> > > >
> > > > Would KCSAN's ASSERT_EXCLUSIVE_BITS() help here?
> > >
> > > I'm quite lost in the sea of new macros that have been added to help
> > > with KCSAN. It doesn't help that they're in -next somewhere that I
> > > can't find, and not in mainline yet. Is there documentation somewhere?
> >
> > Yes, there is documentation. In -next somewhere. :-/
>
> Looking at the documentation link that Marco kindly provided, I don't
> think ASSERT_EXCLUSIVE_BITS is the correct annotation to make. The bits
> in question are being accessed in parallel, it's just that we're willing
> to accept a certain degree of inaccuracy.
>
> > > struct xa_node {
> > > unsigned char shift; /* Bits remaining in each slot */
> > > unsigned char offset; /* Slot offset in parent */
> > > unsigned char count; /* Total entry count */
> > > unsigned char nr_values; /* Value entry count */
> > > struct xa_node __rcu *parent; /* NULL at top of tree */
> > > struct xarray *array; /* The array we belong to */
> > > union {
> > > struct list_head private_list; /* For tree user */
> > > struct rcu_head rcu_head; /* Used when freeing node */
> > > };
> > > void __rcu *slots[XA_CHUNK_SIZE];
> > > union {
> > > unsigned long tags[XA_MAX_MARKS][XA_MARK_LONGS];
> > > unsigned long marks[XA_MAX_MARKS][XA_MARK_LONGS];
> > > };
> > > };
> > >
> > > 'slots' may be modified with the xa_lock
> > > held, and simultaneously read by an RCU reader. Ditto 'tags'/'marks'.
> >
> > KCSAN expects that accesses to the ->parent field should be marked.
> > But if ->parent is always accessed via things like rcu_dereference()
> > and rcu_assign_pointer() (guessing based on the __rcu), then KCSAN
> > won't complain.
> [...]
> > The situation with ->slots is the same as that for ->parent.
> >
> > KCSAN expects accesses to the ->tags[] and ->marks[] arrays to be marked.
> > However, the default configuration of KCSAN asks only that the reads
> > be marked. (Within RCU, I instead configure KCSAN so that it asks that
> > both be marked, but it is of course your choice within your code.)
> >
> > > The RCU readers are prepared for what they see to be inconsistent --
> > > a fact of life when dealing with RCU! So in a sense, yes, there is a
> > > race there. But it's a known, accepted race, and that acceptance is
> > > indicated by the fact that the RCU lock is held. Does there need to be
> > > more annotation here? Or is there an un-noticed bug that the tool is
> > > legitimately pointing out?
> >
> > The answer to both questions is "maybe", depending on the code using
> > the values read. Yes, it would be nice if KCSAN could figure out the
> > difference, but there are limits to what a tool can do. And things
> > are sometimes no-obvious, for example:
>
> I require the following properties from this array of bits:
>
> - If a bit was set before and after the modification, it must be seen to
> be set.
> - If a bit was clear before and after the modification, it must be seen to
> be clear.
> - If a bit is modified, it may be seen as set or clear.
>
> I have found three locations where we use the ->marks array:
>
> 1.
> unsigned long data = *addr & (~0UL << offset);
> if (data)
> return __ffs(data);
>
> 2.
> return find_next_bit(addr, XA_CHUNK_SIZE, offset);
> 3.
> return test_bit(offset, node_marks(node, mark));
>
> The modifications -- all done with the spinlock held -- use the non-atomic
> bitops:
> return __test_and_set_bit(offset, node_marks(node, mark));
> return __test_and_clear_bit(offset, node_marks(node, mark));
> bitmap_fill(node_marks(node, mark), XA_CHUNK_SIZE);
> (that last one doesn't really count -- it's done prior to placing the node
> in the tree)
>
> The first read seems straightforward; I can place a READ_ONCE around
> *addr. The second & third reads are rather less straightforward.
> find_next_bit() and test_bit() are common code and use plain loads today.
Yes, those last two are a bit annoying, aren't they? I guess the first
thing would be placing READ_ONCE() inside them, and if that results in
regressions, have an alternative API for concurrent access?
> > Your mileage may vary, of course. For one thing, your actuarial
> > statistics are quite likley significantly more favorable than are mine.
> > Not that mine are at all bad, particularly by the standards of a century
> > or two ago. ;-)
>
> I don't know ... my preferred form of exercise takes me into the
> harm's way of cars, so while I've significantly lowered my risk of
> dying of cardiovascular disease, I'm much more likely to be killed by
> an inattentive human being! Bring on our robot cars ...
I did my 40 years using that mode of transport. But my reflexes are
no longer up to the task. So I have no advice for you on that one!
Other than to question your trust in robot cars whose code was produced
by human developers! ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-05 21:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-04 3:15 Qian Cai
2020-03-04 3:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-04 3:55 ` Qian Cai
2020-03-04 4:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-04 4:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-03-04 4:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-04 14:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-03-04 16:40 ` Marco Elver
2020-03-04 17:10 ` Qian Cai
2020-03-04 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-03-05 15:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-05 21:39 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-03-06 13:38 ` Marco Elver
2020-03-06 16:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-03-06 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-03-06 20:04 ` Marco Elver
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