From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5B4C54E8B for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 11:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0F720731 for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 11:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729538AbgELLaf (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 May 2020 07:30:35 -0400 Received: from shells.gnugeneration.com ([66.240.222.126]:51232 "EHLO shells.gnugeneration.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726891AbgELLaf (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 May 2020 07:30:35 -0400 Received: by shells.gnugeneration.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A3A51A40053; Tue, 12 May 2020 04:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 04:30:35 -0700 From: Vito Caputo To: linux-kernel Subject: Re: Question regarding blocking set[ug]id on processes including via suid executables Message-ID: <20200512113035.easefxliufsx54mk@shells.gnugeneration.com> References: <20200512094524.662gnls64rwjhct2@shells.gnugeneration.com> <20200512104408.jq3umt5hlqfbuhex@shells.gnugeneration.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200512104408.jq3umt5hlqfbuhex@shells.gnugeneration.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 03:44:08AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 02:45:24AM -0700, Vito Caputo wrote: > > Hello folks, > > > > I'm curious if someone knows a way to do this using existing linux > > interfaces. > > > > I'd like to create a login lacking the ability to switch uid/gid. > > > > Even if the process has access to suid executables like /bin/su, and > > the user has the root password, I'd like the descendant processes of > > their login to be simply incapable of changing uid/gid, even when it's > > in the form of running a program w/suid bit set on an existing and > > accessible executable in the filesystem. No matter what, it just > > can't happen. > > > > Do we have any such thing today? I'd really like to be able to set > > this on a specific user and all logins of that user are simply stuck > > on that uid no matter what. > > > > > Basically what I'm looking for is a convention for login-time > application of the PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS prctl, do we have anything > formalized in userspace for this? We've got NoNewPrivileges in > systemd but it's not really user-oriented AFAIK... > > Maybe lkml isn't the right place to pose this question, any pointers > appreciated though. > For posterity and comment if interested, PAM seems like a reasonable integration point for this but I don't see any existing support currently: https://github.com/linux-pam/linux-pam/issues/224 I'll quit talking to myself on lkml and head to sleep now :) Regards, Vito Caputo