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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
To: Mario.Limonciello@dell.com
Cc: y.linux@paritcher.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 10:50:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200609085038.vte777tltyeojjxs@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <295ad85ecc464a57bffd5b783d4170a1@AUSX13MPC105.AMER.DELL.COM>

On Tuesday 09 June 2020 00:26:45 Mario.Limonciello@dell.com wrote:
> > Mario, are you able to get some official documentation for these 0x0012
> > event types? I think it could be really useful for community so they can
> > understand and add easily new type of code and events. Because currently
> > we are just guessing what it could be. (It is sequence? Or single event?
> > Or single event with extended data? It is generic event? Or it is real
> > keypress? etc...)
> 
> It's a single event with more data in the subsequent words.  It is definitely
> not a real keypress.  It's supposed to be data that a user application would show.
> 
> Remember the way WMI works on Linux and Windows is different.  On Windows
> userland applications get the events directly.  On Linux kernel drivers get the
> events and either use it internally, pass to another kernel driver or pass to
> userland in the form of a translated event.
> 
> So on Windows the whole buffer gets looked at directly by the application and the
> application will decode it to show a translated string.
> 
> I can certainly discuss internally about our team releasing a patch to export
> all these other events.  I would like to know what interface to recommend it pass
> to userspace though, because as I said this is more than just a keycode that
> comes through in the event.  It's not useful to just do dev_info, it really should
> be something that userspace can act on and show a translated message.
> I don't think we want to add another 15 Dell specific keycodes to the kernel for the
> various events and add another 4 more when a laptop introduces another set of keys.

Which interface to use for events? That is a good question and probably
this should be bring to the linux-input mailinglist. I think that
linux-input maintainers could have idea how to do it properly. We need
some interface which would be general enough and usable also by other
drivers / components and I'm sure that ACPI/WMI is not the only
subsystem which needs to send events from kernel to userspace.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-09  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-08  4:22 [PATCH 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys Y Paritcher
2020-06-08  4:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new backlight events Y Paritcher
2020-06-08  8:35   ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 15:30     ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 20:11       ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 20:14         ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 20:36           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 20:38             ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08  4:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012 Y Paritcher
2020-06-08  8:50   ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 20:12     ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 15:40   ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 20:12     ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 20:30       ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 20:36       ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 21:03         ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 22:00           ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 22:53             ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-09 10:44         ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 15:36           ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09 16:14             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-09 19:41               ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09 15:49         ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-09 16:45           ` Sebastian Reichel
2020-06-09 16:59             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-19 15:31               ` Sebastian Reichel
2020-06-19 17:26                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09  8:04     ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08  4:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add keys to bios_to_linux_keycode Y Paritcher
2020-06-08  6:36   ` kernel test robot
2020-06-08  7:36   ` kernel test robot
2020-06-08  9:00   ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 15:46     ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-08 20:12       ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 20:48       ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 20:58         ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09  8:27           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 23:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 23:05   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new backlight events Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 23:24     ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-08 23:05   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012 Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 23:33     ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-09  0:26       ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09  0:57         ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-09  8:40           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-09  8:50         ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2020-06-08 23:05   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new dmi keys to bios_to_linux_keycode Y Paritcher
2020-06-08 23:27     ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-08 23:55       ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-09  0:43         ` Y Paritcher
2020-06-09  8:35           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-09 19:49         ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-10  9:44           ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-10 12:35             ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-12 14:14               ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-12 14:59                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09  3:52 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys Y Paritcher
2020-06-09  3:52   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new backlight events Y Paritcher
2020-06-09 16:02     ` Mario.Limonciello
2020-06-09  3:52   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012 Y Paritcher
2020-06-09  3:52   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new dmi mapping for keycode 0xffff Y Paritcher
2020-06-09  9:19     ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-10 17:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys Y Paritcher
2020-06-10 17:56   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new backlight events Y Paritcher
2020-06-10 17:56   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012 Y Paritcher
2020-06-10 17:56   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new dmi mapping for keycode 0xffff Y Paritcher
2020-06-10 19:22   ` [PATCH v4 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys Mario.Limonciello
2020-07-09 19:29     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-07-13  7:29       ` Pali Rohár
2020-08-14  8:10         ` Pali Rohár
2020-06-12 14:09   ` Pali Rohár

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