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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Jiang Biao <humjb_1983@163.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: consider sched-idle CPU when selecting idle core
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 14:36:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200724123644.GA634690@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPJCdBm=FJp8K1SubXP4Rfa-POr8hDh320faE+4Cjcjk3BL1JQ@mail.gmail.com>


* Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 18:34, Vincent Guittot
> <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:12, Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 15:24, Vincent Guittot
> > > <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 01:39, Jiang Biao <humjb_1983@163.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sched-idle CPU has been considered in select_idle_cpu and
> > > > > select_idle_smt, it also needs to be considered in select_idle_core to
> > > > > be consistent and keep the same *idle* policy.
> > > >
> > > > In the case of select_idle_core, we are looking for a core that is
> > > > fully idle but if one CPU of the core is running a sched_idle task,
> > > > the core will not be idle and we might end up having  the wakeup task
> > > > on a CPU and a sched_idle task on another CPU of the core which is not
> > > > what we want
> > > Got it. sched_idle task may interfere its sibling, which brings me
> > > another question,
> > > If there's a core with smt1 running sched_idle task and smt2 idle,
> > > selecting smt1
> > > rather than smt2 should be more helpful for wakee task, because wakee task
> > > could suppress the sched_idle task without neighbour interfering.
> >
> > But the sched_idle will then probably quickly move on the idle smt2
> >
> > > And there seems to be no consideration about that currently.
> > > Is it worth improving that?
> >
> > This will complexify and extend the duration of the search loop  and
> > as mentioned above, it will most probably be a nop at the end because
> > of sched_idle task moving on smt2
> Indeed, the complexity is not worth.
> Thanks for the explanation.

BTW., if you disagree then you could add a bit of debug 
instrumentation to measure to what extent it's a nop at the end of the 
search loop, to turn the "most probably" statement into a specific 
number.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-24 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-23 23:38 Jiang Biao
2020-07-24  7:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-07-24  8:12   ` Jiang Biao
2020-07-24 10:33     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-07-24 11:53       ` Jiang Biao
2020-07-24 12:36         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2020-07-24 12:40           ` Jiang Biao

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