From: peterz@infradead.org
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/topology: Allow archs to override cpu_smt_mask
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:54:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200806085429.GX2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft90z6dy.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au>
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 03:32:25PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> That brings with it a bunch of problems, such as existing software that
> has been developed/configured for Power8 and expects to see SMT8.
>
> We also allow LPARs to be live migrated from Power8 to Power9 (and back), so
> maintaining the illusion of SMT8 is considered a requirement to make that work.
So how does that work if the kernel booted on P9 and demuxed the SMT8
into 2xSMT4? If you migrate that state onto a P8 with actual SMT8 you're
toast again.
> Yeah I agree the naming is confusing.
>
> Let's call them "SMT4 cores" and "SMT8 cores"?
Works for me, thanks!
> The problem is we are already lying to userspace, because firmware lies to us.
>
> ie. the firmware on these systems shows us an SMT8 core, and so current kernels
> show SMT8 to userspace. I don't think we can realistically change that fact now,
> as these systems are already out in the field.
>
> What this patch tries to do is undo some of the mess, and at least give the
> scheduler the right information.
What a mess... I think it depends on what you do with that P9 to P8
migration case. Does it make sense to have a "p8_compat" boot arg for
the case where you want LPAR migration back onto P8 systems -- in which
case it simply takes the firmware's word as gospel and doesn't untangle
things, because it can actually land on a P8.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-06 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-04 3:33 Srikar Dronamraju
2020-08-04 3:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] powerpc/topology: Override cpu_smt_mask Srikar Dronamraju
2020-08-04 10:46 ` peterz
2020-08-04 11:02 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-08-04 10:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/topology: Allow archs to override cpu_smt_mask peterz
2020-08-04 12:10 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-08-04 12:47 ` peterz
2020-08-06 5:32 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-08-06 8:54 ` peterz [this message]
2020-08-06 12:25 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-08-06 13:15 ` peterz
2020-08-06 14:09 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-08-06 12:53 ` Srikar Dronamraju
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