From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] module: Harden STRICT_MODULE_RWX
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:15:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200812141557.GQ14398@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200812125645.GA8675@willie-the-truck>
The 08/12/2020 13:56, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:40:05PM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:56:56AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > The module .lds has BYTE(0) in the section contents to prevent the
> > > linker from pruning them entirely. The (NOLOAD) is there to ensure
> > > that this byte does not end up in the .ko, which is more a matter of
> > > principle than anything else, so we can happily drop that if it helps.
> > >
> > > However, this should only affect the PROGBITS vs NOBITS designation,
> > > and so I am not sure whether it makes a difference.
> > >
> > > Depending on where the w^x check occurs, we might simply override the
> > > permissions of these sections, and strip the writable permission if it
> > > is set in the PLT handling init code, which manipulates the metadata
> > > of all these 3 sections before the module space is vmalloc'ed.
> >
> > What's curious is that this seems the result of some recent binutils
> > change. Every build with binutils-2.34 (or older) does not seem to
> > generate these as WAX, but has the much more sensible WA.
> >
> > I suppose we can change the kernel check and 'allow' W^X for 0 sized
> > sections, but I think we should still figure out why binutils-2.35 is
> > now generating WAX sections all of a sudden, it might come bite us
> > elsewhere.
>
> Agreed, I think it's important to figure out what's going on here before we
> try to bodge around it.
>
> Adding Szabolcs, in case he has any ideas.
>
> To save him reading the whole thread, here's a summary:
>
> AArch64 kernel modules built with binutils 2.35 end up with a couple of
> ELF sections marked as SHF_WRITE | SHF_ALLOC | SHF_EXECINSTR:
>
> [ 5] .plt PROGBITS 0000000000000388 01d000 000008 00 WAX 0 0 1
> [ 6] .init.plt NOBITS 0000000000000390 01d008 000008 00 WA 0 0 1
> [ 7] .text.ftrace_trampoline PROGBITS 0000000000000398 01d008 000008 00 WAX 0 0 1
>
> This results in the module being rejected by our loader, because we don't
> permit writable, executable mappings.
>
> Our linker script for these entries uses NOLOAD, so it's odd to see PROGBITS
> appearing in the readelf output above (and older binutils emits NOBITS
> sections). Anyway, here's the linker script:
>
> SECTIONS {
> .plt (NOLOAD) : { BYTE(0) }
> .init.plt (NOLOAD) : { BYTE(0) }
> .text.ftrace_trampoline (NOLOAD) : { BYTE(0) }
> }
>
> It appears that the name of the section influences the behaviour, as
> Jessica observed [1] that sections named .text.* end up with PROGBITS,
> whereas random naming such as ".test" ends up with NOBITS, as before.
>
> We've looked at the changelog between binutils 2.34 and 2.35, but nothing
> stands out. Any clues? Is this intentional binutils behaviour?
for me it bisects to
https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=8c803a2dd7d3d742a3d0071914f557ef465afe71
i will have to investigate further what's going on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20200812114127.GA10824@linux-8ccs.fritz.box
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-12 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-03 17:13 Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 20:31 ` Kees Cook
2020-04-08 15:32 ` Jessica Yu
2020-04-08 15:43 ` [PATCH] module: break nested ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX and STRICT_MODULE_RWX #ifdefs Jessica Yu
2020-04-08 15:57 ` [PATCH v2] module: Harden STRICT_MODULE_RWX Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-08 16:20 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-08 8:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-10 9:25 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-10 15:06 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-11 14:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-11 14:55 ` peterz
2020-08-11 15:27 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-08-11 16:01 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-11 16:57 ` Will Deacon
2020-08-11 17:59 ` peterz
2020-08-11 21:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-12 8:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-12 10:40 ` peterz
2020-08-12 11:41 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-12 13:14 ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-12 12:56 ` Will Deacon
2020-08-12 14:15 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2020-08-12 16:00 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-12 16:37 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-12 16:42 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-08-13 9:00 ` Will Deacon
2020-08-12 20:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-13 8:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-13 13:04 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-13 13:07 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-21 12:20 ` Will Deacon
2020-08-21 12:27 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-21 12:30 ` Will Deacon
2020-08-22 13:47 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-24 15:24 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-25 1:54 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-31 9:46 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-31 10:42 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-31 13:25 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-31 15:31 ` Jessica Yu
2020-08-31 15:46 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-09-03 12:37 ` Jessica Yu
2020-09-01 12:51 ` Will Deacon
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