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From: peterz@infradead.org
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+db9cdf3dd1f64252c6ef@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	adobriyan@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, avagin@gmail.com,
	christian@brauner.io, gladkov.alexey@gmail.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	walken@google.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	jannh@google.com
Subject: Re: possible deadlock in proc_pid_syscall (2)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:43:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200831074328.GN1362448@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9h0gvro.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 07:31:39AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> I am thinking that for cases where we want to do significant work it
> might be better to ask the process to pause at someplace safe (probably
> get_signal) and then do all of the work when we know nothing is changing
> in the process.
> 
> I don't really like the idea of checking and then checking again.  We
> might have to do it but it feels like the model is wrong somewhere.
> 
> Given that this is tricky to hit in practice, and given that I am
> already working the general problem of how to sort out the locking I am
> going to work this with the rest of the thorny issues of in exec.  This
> feels like a case where the proper solution is that we simply need
> something better than a mutex.

One possible alternative would be something RCU-like, surround the thing
with get_task_cred() / put_cred() and then have commit_creds() wait for
the usage of the old creds to drop to 0 before continuing.

(Also, get_cred_rcu() is disgusting for casting away const)

But this could be complete garbage, I'm not much familiar with any of
thise code.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-31  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-28  4:57 syzbot
2020-08-28 12:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-28 12:37   ` peterz
2020-08-30 12:31     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-31  7:43       ` peterz [this message]
2020-08-31 13:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-09-02  9:57       ` peterz

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