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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Rong Chen <rong.a.chen@intel.com>,
	kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	"Li, Philip" <philip.li@intel.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Daniel Kiss <daniel.kiss@arm.com>,
	momchil.velikov@arm.com, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/seves] BUILD SUCCESS WITH WARNING e6eb15c9ba3165698488ae5c34920eea20eaa38e
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 21:11:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200917041150.3xfmi5pqyd7qm2fg@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANpmjNPGZnwJVN6ZuBiRUocGPp8c3rnx1v7iGfYna9t8c3ty0w@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020-09-16, 'Marco Elver' via Clang Built Linux wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 20:22, 'Nick Desaulniers' via kasan-dev
><kasan-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:46 AM Marco Elver <elver@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 10:30, <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 08:09:16PM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
>> > > > On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 19:40, Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>> > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:21 AM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > > init/calibrate.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_ctor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > > > > init/calibrate.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_dtor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > > > > init/version.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_ctor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > > > > init/version.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_dtor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > > > > certs/system_keyring.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_ctor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > > > > certs/system_keyring.o: warning: objtool: asan.module_dtor()+0xc: call without frame pointer save/setup
>> > > >
>> > > > This one also appears with Clang 11. This is new I think because we
>> > > > started emitting ASAN ctors for globals redzone initialization.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think we really do not care about precise stack frames in these
>> > > > compiler-generated functions. So, would it be reasonable to make
>> > > > objtool ignore all *san.module_ctor and *san.module_dtor functions (we
>> > > > have them for ASAN, TSAN, MSAN)?
>> > >
>> > > The thing is, if objtool cannot follow, it cannot generate ORC data and
>> > > our unwinder cannot unwind through the instrumentation, and that is a
>> > > fail.
>> > >
>> > > Or am I missing something here?
>> >
>> > They aren't about the actual instrumentation. The warnings are about
>> > module_ctor/module_dtor functions which are compiler-generated, and
>> > these are only called on initialization/destruction (dtors only for
>> > modules I guess).
>> >
>> > E.g. for KASAN it's the calls to __asan_register_globals that are
>> > called from asan.module_ctor. For KCSAN the tsan.module_ctor is
>> > effectively a noop (because __tsan_init() is a noop), so it really
>> > doesn't matter much.
>> >
>> > Is my assumption correct that the only effect would be if something
>> > called by them fails, we just don't see the full stack trace? I think
>> > we can live with that, there are only few central places that deal
>> > with ctors/dtors (do_ctors(), ...?).
>> >
>> > The "real" fix would be to teach the compilers about "frame pointer
>> > save/setup" for generated functions, but I don't think that's
>> > realistic.
>>
>> So this has come up before, specifically in the context of gcov:
>> https://github.com/ClangBuiltLinux/linux/issues/955.
>>
>> I looked into this a bit, and IIRC, the issue was that compiler
>> generated functions aren't very good about keeping track of whether
>> they should or should not emit framepointer setup/teardown
>> prolog/epilogs.  In LLVM's IR, -fno-omit-frame-pointer gets attached
>> to every function as a function level attribute.
>> https://godbolt.org/z/fcn9c6 ("frame-pointer"="all").
>>
>> There were some recent LLVM patches for BTI (arm64) that made some BTI
>> related command line flags module level attributes, which I thought
>> was interesting; I was wondering last night if -fno-omit-frame-pointer
>> and maybe even the level of stack protector should be?  I guess LTO
>> would complicate things; not sure it would be good to merge modules
>> with different attributes; I'm not sure how that's handled today in
>> LLVM.
>>
>> Basically, when the compiler is synthesizing a new function
>> definition, it should check whether a frame pointer should be emitted
>> or not.  We could do that today by maybe scanning all other function
>> definitions for the presence of "frame-pointer"="all" fn attr,
>> breaking early if we find one, and emitting the frame pointer setup in
>> that case.  Though I guess it's "frame-pointer"="none" otherwise, so
>> maybe checking any other fn def would be fine; I don't see any C fn
>> attr's that allow you to keep frame pointers or not.  What's tricky is
>> that the front end flag was resolved much earlier than where this code
>> gets generated, so it would need to look for traces that the flag ever
>> existed, which sounds brittle on paper to me.
>
>Thanks for the summary -- yeah, that was my suspicion, that some
>attribute was being lost somewhere. And I think if we generalize this,
>and don't just try to attach "frame-pointer" attr to the function, we
>probably also solve the BTI issue that Mark still pointed out with
>these module_ctor/dtors.
>
>I was trying to see if there was a generic way to attach all the
>common attributes to the function generated here:
>https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/master/llvm/lib/Transforms/Utils/ModuleUtils.cpp#L122
>-- but we probably can't attach all attributes, and need to remove a
>bunch of them again like the sanitizers (or alternatively just select
>the ones we need). But, I'm still digging for the function that
>attaches all the common attributes...
>
>Thanks,
>-- Marco

Speaking of gcov, do people know whether frame pointers in
kernel's libgcov implementation help?

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94394 "random kernel panic during collecting kernel code coverage"

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 13:42 kernel test robot
2020-09-15 13:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 14:18   ` Rong Chen
2020-09-15 14:41     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 16:05     ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 17:02       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-15 17:21         ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 17:34           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 17:41             ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 18:01               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 18:04                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 17:40           ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 18:09             ` Marco Elver
2020-09-16  8:30               ` peterz
2020-09-16  8:46                 ` Marco Elver
2020-09-16  9:06                   ` peterz
2020-09-16  9:33                     ` Marco Elver
2020-09-16 18:22                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-16 18:51                     ` Marco Elver
2020-09-17  4:11                       ` Fangrui Song [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <333D40A0-4550-4309-9693-1ABA4AC75399@arm.com>
2020-09-17 11:04                         ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-17 11:16                           ` Daniel Kiss
2020-09-17 18:39                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-15 17:44         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 20:12         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 20:49           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 21:02             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-15 21:14               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 22:34               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-16  7:03                 ` Ilie Halip
2020-09-16  8:59                 ` Marco Elver
2020-09-21 16:51                 ` [tip: objtool/core] objtool: Ignore unreachable trap after call to noreturn functions tip-bot2 for Ilie Halip
2020-09-15 21:50             ` [tip:x86/seves] BUILD SUCCESS WITH WARNING e6eb15c9ba3165698488ae5c34920eea20eaa38e Arvind Sankar
2020-09-15 21:59               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 22:44                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-09-16 11:34               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-16 18:28                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-16 18:48                   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-09-15 21:13           ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-09-15 21:28             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-15 23:35               ` Marco Elver

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