From: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/build: Fix vmlinux size check on 64-bit
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:45:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201028164551.GA1989568@rani.riverdale.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201028133909.GA27112@zn.tnic>
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 02:39:09PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 05:14:22PM -0400, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > This is indeed just a small correctness fixlet, but I'm not following
> > the rest of your comments.
>
> I'm just trying to make sense of that house of cards we have here.
>
> > PHYSICAL_START has an effect independent of the setting of
> > RELOCATABLE.
>
> Theoretically you can set PHYSICAL_START to 0x0:
>
> config PHYSICAL_START
> hex "Physical address where the kernel is loaded" if (EXPERT || CRASH_DUMP)
> default "0x1000000"
> help
> This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
>
> If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
> bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
> run from there.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> and disable RELOCATABLE:
>
> CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START=0x0
> # CONFIG_RELOCATABLE is not set
>
> but then you hit this:
>
> ld: per-CPU data too large - increase CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START
>
> full output at the end of the mail.
You don't want to try to run the kernel from physical address 0 in any
case. The default is set to 16MiB to avoid low memory, historically to
avoid the 24-bit ISA DMA range.
> > That said, AFAICT, RELOCATABLE and PHYSICAL_START look like historical
> > artifacts at this point: RELOCATABLE should be completely irrelevant for
> > the 64-bit kernel, and there's really no reason to be able to configure
> > the start VA of the kernel, that should just be constant independent of
> > PHYSICAL_START.
>
> See the CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START help text. Apparently there has been a
> use case where one can set PHYSICAL_START to the region where a kdump
> kernel is going to be loaded and that kdump kernel is a vmlinux and not
> a bzImage and thus not relocatable.
This doesn't matter for the 64-bit kernel, which can be run from any
physical address independent of the RELOCATABLE/PHYSICAL_START settings.
It only matters on 32-bit, where VA and PA are tied together by
VA == __PAGE_OFFSET + PA
On 64-bit, the kernel's location in VA space and physical space can be
independently moved around, so a kernel that starts at 16MiB in VA space
can be loaded anywhere above 16MiB in physical space.
>
> Going back to the question at hand, if you think about it, the kernel
> image *is* between _text or _stext and _end. And KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE is
> exactly what it is - the size of the kernel image.
>
> Now, if you were talking about a kernel *mapping* size, then I'd
> understand but this check is for the kernel *image* size.
>
KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE is _not_ the size of the kernel image, the name is
misleading. It is the maximum VA that the kernel can occupy, it is used
to prepopulate the PMD-level pagetable for initial boot (level2_kernel_pgt)
and is also used to define MODULES_VADDR, so it _is_ talking about
mappings. If you have a 30MiB kernel that is placed at a starting VA of
510MiB when KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE is 512MiB, it won't boot.
> But reading that commit message again:
>
> these build-time and link-time checks would have prevented the
> vmlinux size regression.
>
> this *is* talking about vmlinux size and that starts at _text...
>
Increasing vmlinux size can trigger the problem by pushing _end beyond
KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, but the problem occurs once _end - __START_KERNEL_map
exceeds KERNEL_IMAGE_SIZE, not when _end - _text exceeds it, hence this
patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-28 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-05 15:15 Arvind Sankar
2020-10-27 20:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-27 21:14 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-10-28 13:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-28 16:45 ` Arvind Sankar [this message]
2020-10-28 19:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-10-28 20:45 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 16:19 ` [PATCH v2] " Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 21:02 ` [tip: x86/build] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-10-29 20:05 ` [PATCH] " Borislav Petkov
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