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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>
Cc: "boqun.feng@gmail.com" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"rcu@vger.kernel.org" <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	vkuznets <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kdump always hangs in rcu_barrier() -> wait_for_completion()
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:54:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201126235440.GT1437@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MW2PR2101MB18011DA2FCF66D03BF8BB0CCBFF91@MW2PR2101MB1801.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:59:19PM +0000, Dexuan Cui wrote:
> > From: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:42 PM
> > 
> > > > Another possibility is that rcu_state.gp_kthread is non-NULL, but that
> > > > something else is preventing RCU grace periods from completing, but in
> > >
> > > It looks like somehow the scheduling is not working here: in rcu_barrier()
> > > , if I replace the wait_for_completion() with
> > > wait_for_completion_timeout(&rcu_state.barrier_completion, 30*HZ), the
> > > issue persists.
> > 
> > Have you tried using sysreq-t to see what the various tasks are doing?
> 
> Will try it.
> 
> BTW, this is a "Generation 2" VM on Hyper-V, meaning sysrq only starts to
> work after the Hyper-V para-virtualized keyboard driver loads... So, at this
> early point, sysrq is not working. :-( I'll have to hack the code and use a 
> virtual NMI interrupt to force the sysrq handler to be called.

Whatever works!

> > Having interrupts disabled on all CPUs would have the effect of disabling
> > the RCU CPU stall warnings.
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> I'm sure the interrupts are not disabled. Here the VM only has 1 virtual CPU,
> and when the hang issue happens the virtual serial console is still responding
> when I press Enter (it prints a new line) or Ctrl+C (it prints ^C).
> 
> Here the VM does not use the "legacy timers" (PIT, Local APIC timer, etc.) at all.
> Instead, the VM uses the Hyper-V para-virtualized timers. It looks the Hyper-V
> timer never fires in the kdump kernel when the hang issue happens. I'm 
> looking into this... I suspect this hang issue may only be specific to Hyper-V.

Fair enough, given that timers not working can also suppress RCU CPU
stall warnings.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-26 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-25  4:56 Dexuan Cui
2020-11-26 15:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-11-26 21:25   ` Dexuan Cui
2020-11-26 21:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-11-26 22:59       ` Dexuan Cui
2020-11-26 23:54         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2021-01-28  7:28           ` Dexuan Cui
2021-01-28 14:58             ` Paul E. McKenney

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