From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>
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Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [SPECIFICATION RFC] The firmware and bootloader log specification
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:50:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201207215032.GN32272@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b614471-0395-88a5-1347-66417797e39d@molgen.mpg.de>
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On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 02:23:23PM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
> Dear Wim, dear Daniel,
>
>
> First, thank you for including all parties in the discussion.
> Am 04.12.20 um 13:52 schrieb Wim Vervoorn:
>
> > I agree with you. Using an existing standard is better than inventing
> > a new one in this case. I think using the coreboot logging is a good
> > idea as there is indeed a lot of support already available and it is
> > lightweight and simple.
> In my opinion coreboot’s format is lacking, that it does not record the
> timestamp, and the log level is not stored as metadata, but (in coreboot)
> only used to decide if to print the message or not.
>
> I agree with you, that an existing standard should be used, and in my
> opinion it’s Linux message format. That is most widely supported, and
> existing tools could then also work with pre-Linux messages.
>
> Sean Hudson from Mentor Graphics presented that idea at Embedded Linux
> Conference Europe 2016 [1]. No idea, if anything came out of that effort.
> (Unfortunately, I couldn’t find an email. Does somebody have contacts at
> Mentor to find out, how to reach him?)
I believe the main thing that came out of this was the reminder that
there was an even older attempt by U-Boot to have such a mechanism, and
that at the time getting the work accepted in Linux faced some hurdles
or another.
That said, I too agree with taking what's already a de facto standard,
the coreboot logging, and expand on it as needed.
--
Tom
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-07 21:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-13 23:52 Daniel Kiper
2020-11-14 3:14 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-11-14 12:32 ` Nico Huber
2020-11-16 7:02 ` Antw: [EXT] [systemd-devel] " Ulrich Windl
2020-11-16 8:57 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-11-18 15:01 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2020-12-03 1:17 ` Julius Werner
2020-12-04 12:52 ` Wim Vervoorn
2020-12-04 13:23 ` Paul Menzel
2020-12-07 21:50 ` Tom Rini [this message]
2020-12-09 5:41 ` Frank Rowand
2020-12-03 16:31 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-15 20:25 ` Simon Glass
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