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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Guido Kiener <Guido.Kiener@rohde-schwarz.com>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	syzbot <syzbot+e2eae5639e7203360018@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"dpenkler@gmail.com" <dpenkler@gmail.com>,
	"lee.jones@linaro.org" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"dwmw@amazon.co.uk" <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"luto@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com"
	<syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [syzbot] INFO: rcu detected stall in tx
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 14:32:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210506183213.GA748114@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be62c93e1e384f49865915b9bda1f12e@rohde-schwarz.com>

On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 05:44:55PM +0000, Guido Kiener wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Stern
> > Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:49 PM
> > To: Kiener Guido 14DS1 <Guido.Kiener@rohde-schwarz.com>
> > >
> > > Thanks for your assessment. I agree with the general feeling. I
> > > counted about hundred specific usb drivers, so wouldn't it be better to fix the
> > problem in some of the host drivers (e.g. urb.c)?
> > > We could return an error when calling usb_submit_urb() on an erroneous pipe.
> > > I cannot estimate the side effects and we need to check all drivers
> > > again how they deal with the error situation. Maybe there are some special driver
> > that need a specialized error handling.
> > > In this case these drivers could reset the (new?) error flag to allow
> > > calling usb_submit_urb() again without error. This could work, isn't it?
> > 
> > That is feasible, although it would be an awkward approach.  As you said, the side
> > effects aren't clear.  But it might work.
> 
> Otherwise I see only the other approach to change hundred drivers and add the
> cases EPROTO, EILSEQ and ETIME in each callback handler. The usbtmc driver
> already respects the EILSEQ and ETIME, and only EPROTO is missing.
> The rest should be more a management task.
> BTW do you assume it is only a problem for INT pipes or is it also a problem
> for isochronous and bulk transfers?

All of them.  Control too.

> > Will you be able to test patches?
> 
> I only can test the USBTMC function in some different PCs. I do not have automated
> regression tests for USB drivers or Linux kernels.
> Maybe there is company who could do that.

Well then, if I do find time to write a patch, I'll ask you to try it 
out with the usbtmc driver.

Alan Stern

      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06 17:44 Guido Kiener
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