From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rculist: unify documentation about missing list_empty_rcu()
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 10:56:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210521175652.GC4441@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210521100829.257385-1-jwi@linux.ibm.com>
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 12:08:29PM +0200, Julian Wiedmann wrote:
> We have two separate sections that talk about why list_empty_rcu()
> is not needed, consolidate them.
>
> Signed-off-by: Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>
Good catch, thank you! As usual, I could not resist the urge to further
wordsmith, resulting in the following. Please let me know if I messed
anything up.
Thanx, Paul
------------------------------------------------------------------------
commit 6e9da58a4b391035e1ce77b8d867cdcdc73521b2
Author: Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>
Date: Fri May 21 12:08:29 2021 +0200
rculist: Unify documentation about missing list_empty_rcu()
We have two separate sections that talk about why list_empty_rcu()
is not needed, so this commit consolidates them.
Signed-off-by: Julian Wiedmann <jwi@linux.ibm.com>
[ paulmck: The usual wordsmithing. ]
Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
diff --git a/include/linux/rculist.h b/include/linux/rculist.h
index f8633d37e358..d29740be4833 100644
--- a/include/linux/rculist.h
+++ b/include/linux/rculist.h
@@ -10,15 +10,6 @@
#include <linux/list.h>
#include <linux/rcupdate.h>
-/*
- * Why is there no list_empty_rcu()? Because list_empty() serves this
- * purpose. The list_empty() function fetches the RCU-protected pointer
- * and compares it to the address of the list head, but neither dereferences
- * this pointer itself nor provides this pointer to the caller. Therefore,
- * it is not necessary to use rcu_dereference(), so that list_empty() can
- * be used anywhere you would want to use a list_empty_rcu().
- */
-
/*
* INIT_LIST_HEAD_RCU - Initialize a list_head visible to RCU readers
* @list: list to be initialized
@@ -318,21 +309,29 @@ static inline void list_splice_tail_init_rcu(struct list_head *list,
/*
* Where are list_empty_rcu() and list_first_entry_rcu()?
*
- * Implementing those functions following their counterparts list_empty() and
- * list_first_entry() is not advisable because they lead to subtle race
- * conditions as the following snippet shows:
+ * They do not exist because they would lead to subtle race conditions:
*
* if (!list_empty_rcu(mylist)) {
* struct foo *bar = list_first_entry_rcu(mylist, struct foo, list_member);
* do_something(bar);
* }
*
- * The list may not be empty when list_empty_rcu checks it, but it may be when
- * list_first_entry_rcu rereads the ->next pointer.
- *
- * Rereading the ->next pointer is not a problem for list_empty() and
- * list_first_entry() because they would be protected by a lock that blocks
- * writers.
+ * The list might be non-empty when list_empty_rcu() checks it, but it
+ * might have become empty by the time that list_first_entry_rcu() rereads
+ * the ->next pointer, which would result in a SEGV.
+ *
+ * When not using RCU, it is OK for list_first_entry() to re-read that
+ * pointer because both functions should be protected by some lock that
+ * blocks writers.
+ *
+ * When using RCU, list_empty() uses READ_ONCE() to fetch the
+ * RCU-protected ->next pointer and then compares it to the address of the
+ * list head. However, it neither dereferences this pointer nor provides
+ * this pointer to its caller. Thus, READ_ONCE() suffices (that is,
+ * rcu_dereference() is not needed), which means that list_empty() can be
+ * used anywhere you would want to use list_empty_rcu(). Just don't
+ * expect anything useful to happen if you do a subsequent lockless
+ * call to list_first_entry_rcu()!!!
*
* See list_first_or_null_rcu for an alternative.
*/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-21 17:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-21 10:08 Julian Wiedmann
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