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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Odin Ugedal <odin@uged.al>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Use rq->lock when checking cfs_rq list presence
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:26:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211013142643.GA48428@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtAQmqgAiNGqk9xRmiB4_dzHxaKK68+fWwea25mZv0kT2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 09:57:17AM +0200, Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
> Furthermore, list_del_leaf_cfs_rq() starts with the same test on of
> cfs_rq->on_list.

Yes, the same check but synchronized with rq->lock.

> The problem is that the cfs_rq can be added during or
> after the test. Removing it should not be enough because we do the
> same test under rq lock which only ensures that both the test and the
> add on the list will not happen simultaneously.

This is what I overlooked when I was looking for explanation of the UAF
on the leaf list.

> This seems to closes the race window in your case but this could still
> happen AFAICT.

You seem to be right.
Hopefully, I'll be able to collect more data evaluating this.

> What about  your patchset about adding a cfs in the list only when
> there is a runnable task ?

The patches I had sent previously [1] avoid adding cfs_rq to the list
when it's under a throttled ancestor (namely 4/5). The runnable
condition is rather orthogonal. (Not sure it's the patchset you were
referring to.)


> Wouldn't this fix the problem ?

FWIW, the "reliable" fix so far is a revert of the commit a7b359fc6a37
("sched/fair: Correctly insert cfs_rq's to list on
unthrottle"). Therefore my hypothesis about racy adding from
tg_unthrottle_up(), so I think the other patches won't affect the issue.

Thanks for your feedback. Let me examine the problem some more before
continuing with this patch.

Michal


[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210819175034.4577-1-mkoutny@suse.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-13 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-11 17:22 Michal Koutný
2021-10-11 19:12 ` Odin Ugedal
2021-10-12 18:32   ` Tao Zhou
2021-10-13 18:52     ` Odin Ugedal
2021-10-13 14:39   ` Michal Koutný
2021-10-13 18:45     ` Odin Ugedal
2021-10-13  7:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-10-13 14:26   ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2021-11-02 16:02     ` task_group unthrottling and removal race (was Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Use rq->lock when checking cfs_rq list) presence Michal Koutný
2021-11-02 20:20       ` Odin Ugedal
2021-11-03  9:51       ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-03 10:51         ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-03 11:10           ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-03 14:16             ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-03 19:06               ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent dead task groups from regaining cfs_rq's Mathias Krause
2021-11-03 22:03                 ` Benjamin Segall
2021-11-04  8:50                   ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-04 15:13                     ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-04 16:49                       ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-04 17:37                         ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-05 14:25                           ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-05 14:44                             ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-05 16:29                               ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-05 16:58                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-05 17:14                                   ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-05 17:27                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-05 17:40                                       ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-06 10:48                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-08 10:27                                   ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-08 11:40                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-08 15:06                                       ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-10 15:14                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-09 18:47                                       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:17                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-11-04 20:46                       ` Benjamin Segall
2021-11-04 18:49                 ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-05 14:55                   ` Mathias Krause
2021-11-05 14:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra

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