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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	acme <acme@kernel.org>, kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
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	Qiang Zhang <qiang.zhang@windriver.com>,
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	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
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	aubrey li <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	yu c chen <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [sched.h] 317419b91e: perf-sanity-tests.Parse_sched_tracepoints_fields.fail
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:48:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211014104811.356e11ae@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbAhT1bTAThrmA1zYE5q8shR4dxZf5fqcq_9wVrV+XwVEQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 22:40:04 +0800
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com> wrote:

> > mount -t tracefs nodev /sys/kernel/tracing
> > cat /sys/kernel/tracing/events/sched/sched_switch/format
> >
> > name: sched_switch
> > ID: 314
> > format:
> > [...]
> >         field:char prev_comm[16];       offset:8;       size:16;        signed:1;
> > [...]
> >         field:char next_comm[16];       offset:40;      size:16;        signed:1;
> >
> > Both of those fields expose a fixed-size of 16 bytes.
> >
> > AFAIK Steven's intent was that by parsing this file, trace viewers could adapt to
> > changes in the event field layout. Unfortunately, there have been cases where
> > trace viewers had a hard expectation on the field layout. Hopefully those have
> > all been fixed a while ago.
> >  
> 
> I don't have a clear idea what will happen to trace viewers if we
> extend task comm.

There shouldn't be any doing a hard coded read of the events. That happened
once with powertop, but they broke when they ran 32 bit userspace on a 64
bit kernel, and they switched to libtraceevent to fix it. Which handles
these updates.

> 
> Steven, do you have any suggestions ?

The "Don't break user space" is a "tree in the forest" argument. We break
user space all the time. But if no user space tool is around to hear it,
did it really break? The answer is "no".

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-14 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-10 10:24 [PATCH v3 0/4] task_struct: extend task comm from 16 to 24 for CONFIG_BASE_FULL Yafang Shao
2021-10-10 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] connector: use __get_task_comm in proc_comm_connector Yafang Shao
2021-10-10 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] fs/exec: use strscpy instead of strlcpy in __set_task_comm Yafang Shao
2021-10-10 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] sched.h: extend task comm from 16 to 24 for CONFIG_BASE_FULL Yafang Shao
2021-10-14  7:27   ` [sched.h] 317419b91e: perf-sanity-tests.Parse_sched_tracepoints_fields.fail kernel test robot
2021-10-14  9:24     ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-14 12:42       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-10-14 13:05         ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-14 13:09           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-10-14 13:11             ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-14 13:50               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-10-14 14:40                 ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-14 14:48                   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2021-10-14 15:05                     ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-14 16:14                   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-15  2:05                     ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-15  2:14                       ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-15  2:20                         ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-19 16:51         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2021-10-20  4:01           ` Yafang Shao
2021-10-10 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] kernel/kthread: show a warning if kthread's comm is truncated Yafang Shao

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