From: Dmitrii Banshchikov <me@ubique.spb.ru>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
syzbot <syzbot+43fd005b5a1b4d10781e@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
sboyd@kernel.org,
syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rosted@goodmis.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] possible deadlock in ktime_get_coarse_ts64
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 17:51:15 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211107135115.tqqx62sxsfeuzslb@amnesia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgqg2r4o.ffs@tglx>
On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 11:32:07AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > 2) bpf_spin_lock/unlock have notrace attribute set.
>
> How is that supposed to help?
>
> You cannot take a spinlock from NMI context if that same lock can be
> taken by other contexts as well.
>
> Also notrace on the public function is not guaranteeing that the inlines
> (as defined) are not traceable and it does not exclude it from being
> kprobed.
>
> > 3) bpf_timer_* helpers fail early if they are in NMI.
> >
> > Why they have to be excluded?
>
> Because timers take locks and you can just end up in the very same
> situation that you create invers lock dependencies or deadlocks when you
> use that from a tracepoint.
>
> hrtimer_start()
> lock_base();
> trace_hrtimer...()
> perf_event()
> bpf_run()
> bpf_timer_start()
> hrtimer_start()
> lock_base() <- DEADLOCK
>
> Tracepoints and perf events are very limited in what they can actually
> do. Just because it's BPF these rules are not magically going away.
>
Thanks for the clarification.
--
Dmitrii Banshchikov
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-07 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-04 16:18 syzbot
2021-11-05 13:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-05 13:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-11-05 15:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-11-05 17:03 ` Dmitrii Banshchikov
2021-11-05 17:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-06 20:07 ` Dmitrii Banshchikov
2021-11-07 10:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-07 13:51 ` Dmitrii Banshchikov [this message]
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