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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "'Steven Rostedt'" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Strange output on the console
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:25:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220225122546.GB18720@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32a7af26f4494f47a03a6d965ac7c99a@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:11:49AM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > > But the earlier output doesn't have many different characters in it.
> > > Which is typical of the baud rate being wrong.
> > 
> > I don't think so, here's the beginning of the capture:
> > 
> >   Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
> >   0SI 15Nto
> >   LgtAsri[dnei00ieC nm
> >   i:0eom:Soce
> >   [ad000Ade s:ii SSLtbueludAis002h00 1)ASrPn
> >   Ars004h00 7ARrPn
> > 
> > All of these chars are within the printable set, so there's a probability
> > of ~37% per char, so even for a short string of 9 chars like the first
> > line, that's a 0.01% chance of it respecting the set. That's why for me
> > it definitely doesn't correspond to a baud rate issue. With wrong baud
> > rates you get lots of garbage in the full 8-bit range.
> > 
> > In addition there are even upper case at the beginning of the lines which
> > probably correspond to the ones that are printed on these lines.
> 
> Ok, that bit is probably output after the fifo is disabled.
> 
> But a few lines later you get:
> 
> TntiTet_TetkT t:TetyTvt:TntaTttTet TeteTvtnTntnTvtnT teT teTettTettKTeteTttnTnteTttaTttaTetKTttOTet:TvtnTvtltTntw Tnt:T tOTvt_Tnt:TvtKTntnT tsTvtsTttsTttsTttosTvtotTtt:TntrTntOTet T ttTvtKT tKT teTnttTettTntaTntdTttaT taTeteT tTtt TttrTntlTvt:TetkT tTtttTnteTttOTetkTvtsTeteT tlTttoTntoTetpTvtpTetsTvtvTvteTntOTet
> TttTetsTetsTntsTetKT t TttiTttT tnT tOTnt_TttrTtttTntKTetOTtteTnt:T tKTttpTvdoT dxTvdnTtd TedtTedoTvdiTedaTedT d Ttd:TedtTtd TeddTvdKTediTndgTednTtdgTtd TedKT snTesTtsOTesKTnstTvsOTvsTnsKTvs:Tts:TesTvs:Tns Tes T sdTts TtsoTesOTtslTesnTesKTesOTns
> TnsTesOT s T sKTesOT sKTvsOTtsTtsKTtsT sKTesTesKT sKTesOT siT stTnsaTvsaTesKTnsOT s
> TesKTnsT s TvsKTeslT sOTesT sKTtseTnseTvs_Tts_T sOTes TnsOT s T spTespTesdTesdTeseTtseTeseTt_rTe_rTv_oTes:T s:Tes:TnfwOTvfrKT fwT frTefpuTefpKTefpTvf:TnsOTvsOTnsoTvs Tvs TvsTtssTnsT sKTesTnsTvsTtsoTesmTnsgTesiTeslTtsTvsKTnsTvsOTtsT s_Tnsu
> 
> which really doesn't have enough different characters in it to be a fifo problem.
> That looks like a UART struggling to find valid start and stop bits
> on a continuous data stream that doesn't match the baud rate.
> 
> It may also be that whatever 'terminal' is being used is masking off the 0x80 bit.

That could be one option I thought about but still, that sounds quite
suspicious. You don't even get any #!:$/ etc. Or maybe the UART is
configured in 6-bit mode (most 16550 support 5-8 bits), and maybe even
the stop bit and/or parity participates.

> Another possibility is that the count of characters is about right.
> But the receiver is misaligned on the 10 bit async characters.
> Because these is no line idle, it never synchronises properly.
> ISTR a real async terminal behaving that way.
> But I think that gives a much wider range of characters - just the wrong ones.
>
> There is also a third error pattern:
> ^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[A^[[
> which might be an 'even more wrong' baud rate.

This one just looks like the Up arrow, that Steven might have pressed at
some point during the capture.

> So maybe we are both right - for different bits of the error.

:-)
... and Steven having fun reading our proposals after having made this
up entirely in preparation of the next April's fool :-)

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-25  4:00 Steven Rostedt
2022-02-25  4:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-25  5:07   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-25 13:32     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-25 13:42       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-26  2:20         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-02-26 11:49           ` Wander Costa
2022-02-28 16:05             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-02 18:49               ` Wander Costa
2022-02-25  6:12 ` David Laight
2022-02-25  6:36   ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25  9:37     ` John Ogness
2022-02-25  9:42       ` John Ogness
2022-02-25 10:11     ` David Laight
2022-02-25 10:32       ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 11:11         ` David Laight
2022-02-25 12:25           ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2022-02-25 13:03             ` David Laight
2022-02-25 13:17             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-25 13:25               ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 13:28             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-25 13:40               ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 13:44                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-25 13:57                   ` Willy Tarreau
2022-02-25 13:53           ` Steven Rostedt

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