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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 11/30] x86/tdx: Handle in-kernel MMIO
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 20:18:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220311171848.g5wobw3rmi4e2zkd@black.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9b2836ce-5267-8342-65eb-1084ba7e0cdf@intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:53:01AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 3/10/22 08:48, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> I think this is good enough:
> 
>    - All guest code is expected to be in TD-private memory.  Being
>      private to the TD, VMMs have no way to access TD-private memory and
>      no way to read the instruction to decode and emulate it.

Looks good.

One remark: executing from shared memory (or walking page tables in shared
memory) triggers #PF.

> 
> We don't have to rehash what private memory is or how it is implemented.
> 
> >> This problem was laid out as having three cases:
> >> 1. virtio
> >> 2. x86-specific drivers
> >> 3. random drivers (everything else)
> >>
> >> #1 could be done with paravirt
> >> #2 is unspecified and unknown
> >> #3 use doesn't as far as I know exist in TDX guests today
> > 
> > #2 doesn't matter from performance point of view and there is no
> > convenient place where they can be intercepted as they are scattered
> > across the tree. Patching them doesn't bring any benefit, only pain.
> 
> I'd feel a lot better if this was slightly better specified.  Even
> booting with a:
> 
> 	printf("rip: %lx\n", regs->rip);
> 
> in the #VE handler would give some hard data about these.  This still
> feels to me like something that Sean got booting two years ago and
> nobody has really reconsidered.

Here the list I see on boot. It highly depends on QEMU setup. Any form of
device filtering will cut the further.

MMIO: ahci_enable_ahci
MMIO: ahci_freeze
MMIO: ahci_init_controller
MMIO: ahci_port_resume
MMIO: ahci_postreset
MMIO: ahci_reset_controller
MMIO: ahci_save_initial_config
MMIO: ahci_scr_read
MMIO: ahci_scr_write
MMIO: ahci_set_em_messages
MMIO: ahci_start_engine
MMIO: ahci_stop_engine
MMIO: ahci_thaw
MMIO: ioapic_set_affinity
MMIO: ioread16
MMIO: ioread32
MMIO: ioread8
MMIO: iowrite16
MMIO: iowrite32
MMIO: iowrite8
MMIO: mask_ioapic_irq
MMIO: mp_irqdomain_activate
MMIO: mp_irqdomain_deactivate
MMIO: native_io_apic_read
MMIO: __pci_enable_msix_range
MMIO: pci_mmcfg_read
MMIO: pci_msi_mask_irq
MMIO: pci_msi_unmask_irq
MMIO: __pci_write_msi_msg
MMIO: restore_ioapic_entries
MMIO: startup_ioapic_irq
MMIO: update_no_reboot_bit_mem

ioread*/iowrite* comes from virtio.

> > #3 some customers already declared that they will use device passthough
> > (yes, it is not safe). CSP may want to emulate random device, depending on
> > setup. Like, a power button or something.
> 
> I'm not sure I'm totally on board with that.
> 
> But, let's try to make a coherent changelog out of that mess.
> 
> 	This approach is bad for performance.  But, it has (virtually)
> 	no impact on the size of the kernel image and will work for a
> 	wide variety of drivers.  This allows TDX deployments to use
> 	arbitrary devices and device drivers, including virtio.  TDX
> 	customers have asked for the capability to use random devices in
> 	their deployments.
> 
> 	In other words, even if all of the work was done to
> 	paravirtualize all x86 MMIO users and virtio, this approach
> 	would still be needed.  There is essentially no way to get rid
> 	of this code.
> 
> 	This approach is functional for all in-kernel MMIO users current
> 	and future and does so with a minimal amount of code and kernel
> 	image bloat.
> 
> Does that summarize it?

I will integrate it in the commit message.

> But, I'd like to see one of two things:
> 1. Change the BUG()s to WARN()s.
> 2. Make it utterly clear that handle_mmio() is for handling kernel MMIO
>    only.  Definitely change the naming, possibly add a check for
>    user_mode().  In other words, make it even _less_ generic.
> 
> None of that should be hard.

Okay, I will downgrade BUG() to WARN() and return false for user_mode()
with warning.

> BTW, the BUG()s made me think about how the gp_try_fixup_and_notify()
> code would work for MMIO.  For instance, are there any places where
> fixup might be done for MMIO?  If so, an earlier BUG() wouldn't allow
> the fixup to occur.

I can be wrong, but I don't think we do fixups for MMIO.

> Do we *WANT* #VE's to be exposed to the #GP fixup machinery?

We need the fixup at least for MSRs.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-11 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-02 14:27 [PATCHv5 00/30] TDX Guest: TDX core support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 01/30] x86/tdx: Detect running as a TDX guest in early boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-04 15:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-04 15:47     ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-04 16:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-07 22:24         ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 18:22           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 02/30] x86/tdx: Provide common base for SEAMCALL and TDCALL C wrappers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 19:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 12:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-10 14:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 14:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 03/30] x86/tdx: Add __tdx_module_call() and __tdx_hypercall() helper functions Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:03   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 15:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-10 21:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 21:48       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-15 15:56         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-12 10:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 04/30] x86/tdx: Extend the confidential computing API to support TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:17   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 16:01     ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 18:36       ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 23:51         ` [PATCHv5.2 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10  0:07           ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-15 19:41           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 05/30] x86/tdx: Exclude shared bit from __PHYSICAL_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 06/30] x86/traps: Refactor exc_general_protection() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:18   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 07/30] x86/traps: Add #VE support for TDX guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:29   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 08/30] x86/tdx: Add HLT support for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 09/30] x86/tdx: Add MSR " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 10/30] x86/tdx: Handle CPUID via #VE Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 20:33   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-09 16:15     ` [PATCH] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 11/30] x86/tdx: Handle in-kernel MMIO Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:26   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10  0:51     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10  1:06       ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 16:48         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-10 17:53           ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-11 17:18             ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2022-03-11 17:22               ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-11 18:01               ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 12/30] x86/tdx: Detect TDX at early kernel decompression time Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07 22:27   ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 13/30] x86: Adjust types used in port I/O helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 14/30] x86: Consolidate " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 15/30] x86/boot: Port I/O: allow to hook up alternative helpers Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 17:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-02 19:41     ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 20:02       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 16/30] x86/boot: Port I/O: add decompression-time support for TDX Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 17/30] x86/tdx: Port I/O: add runtime hypercalls Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:30   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 18/30] x86/tdx: Port I/O: add early boot support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 19/30] x86/tdx: Wire up KVM hypercalls Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 20/30] x86/boot: Add a trampoline for booting APs via firmware handoff Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 21/30] x86/acpi, x86/boot: Add multiprocessor wake-up support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 22/30] x86/boot: Set CR0.NE early and keep it set during the boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 21:37   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:27 ` [PATCHv5 23/30] x86/boot: Avoid #VE during boot for TDX platforms Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07  9:29   ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-07 22:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08  1:19       ` Xiaoyao Li
2022-03-08 16:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-07 22:36     ` [PATCHv5.1 " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 24/30] x86/topology: Disable CPU online/offline control for TDX guests Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 25/30] x86/tdx: Make pages shared in ioremap() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-08 22:02   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 26/30] x86/mm/cpa: Add support for TDX shared memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 19:44   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 27/30] x86/kvm: Use bounce buffers for TD guest Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 20:07   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-10 14:29     ` Tom Lendacky
2022-03-10 14:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 28/30] x86/tdx: ioapic: Add shared bit for IOAPIC base address Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 20:39   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 29/30] ACPICA: Avoid cache flush inside virtual machines Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-02 16:13   ` Dan Williams
2022-03-09 20:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-03-02 14:28 ` [PATCHv5 30/30] Documentation/x86: Document TDX kernel architecture Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-03-09 21:49   ` Dave Hansen

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