mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lukasz.luba@arm.com, wvw@google.com, xuewen.yan94@gmail.com,
	han.lin@mediatek.com, Jonathan.JMChen@mediatek.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/fair: unlink misfit task from cpu overutilized
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:21:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230129162120.ynzgsxsdjwluucmk@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5012cdf-ad5b-adf8-11f6-8ac2c3a89f0b@arm.com>

On 01/26/23 12:42, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 19/01/2023 17:42, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > By taking into account uclamp_min, the 1:1 relation between task misfit
> > and cpu overutilized is no more true as a task with a small util_avg may
> > not fit a high capacity cpu because of uclamp_min constraint.
> > 
> > Add a new state in util_fits_cpu() to reflect the case that task would fit
> > a CPU except for the uclamp_min hint which is a performance requirement.
> > 
> > Use -1 to reflect that a CPU doesn't fit only because of uclamp_min so we
> > can use this new value to take additional action to select the best CPU
> > that doesn't match uclamp_min hint.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > ---
> > 
> > Change since v3:
> > - Keep current condition for uclamp_max_fits in util_fits_cpu()
> > - Update some comments
> 
> We had already this discussion whether this patch can also remove
> Capacity Inversion (CapInv).
> 
> After studying the code again, I'm not so sure anymore.
> 
> This patch:
> 
> (1) adds a dedicated return value (-1) to util_fits_cpu() when:
> 
> `util fits 80% capacity_of() && util < uclamp_min && uclamp_min >
> capacity_orig_thermal (region c)`
> 
> (2) Enhancements to the CPU selection in sic() and feec() to cater for
> this new return value.

-1 means that the task fits, but only uclamp_min hint fails. ie: the task util
is small enough to run on this cpu, but it would like to run faster and this
cpu can't satisfy this request at the moment.

> 
> IMHO this doesn't make the intention of CapInv in util_fits_cpu()
> obsolete, which is using:
> 
> in CapInv:
> 
>   capacity_orig         = capacity_orig_of() - thermal_load_avg
>   capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - thermal_load_avg
> 
> not in CapInv:
> 
>   capacity_orig         = capacity_orig_of()
>   capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - th_pressure
> 
> Maybe I still miss a bit of the story?

Vincent approach is different to mine. I tried to hide all the complexity in
util_fits_cpu() so all users don't care.

But with Vincent changes, now the decision is delegated to the caller to decide
what to do if thermal pressure is causing trouble.

IOW, I expect this line only stay after Vincent patch

	capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - th_pressure

HTH


Cheers

--
Qais Yousef

> 
> v3 hints to removing the bits in the next version:
> 
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20230115001906.v7uq4ddodrbvye7d@airbuntu
> 
> >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 105 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> >  1 file changed, 82 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index d4db72f8f84e..54e14da53274 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -4561,8 +4561,8 @@ static inline int util_fits_cpu(unsigned long util,
> >  	 * handle the case uclamp_min > uclamp_max.
> >  	 */
> >  	uclamp_min = min(uclamp_min, uclamp_max);
> > -	if (util < uclamp_min && capacity_orig != SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE)
> > -		fits = fits && (uclamp_min <= capacity_orig_thermal);
> > +	if (fits && (util < uclamp_min) && (uclamp_min > capacity_orig_thermal))
> > +		return -1;
> 
> Or does the definition 'return -1 if util fits but uclamp doesn't' make
> the distinction between capacity_orig and capacity_orig_thermal obsolete
> and so CapInv?
> 
> [...]
> 
> >  static inline void update_misfit_status(struct task_struct *p, struct rq *rq)
> > @@ -6138,6 +6142,7 @@ static inline bool cpu_overutilized(int cpu)
> >  	unsigned long rq_util_min = uclamp_rq_get(cpu_rq(cpu), UCLAMP_MIN);
> >  	unsigned long rq_util_max = uclamp_rq_get(cpu_rq(cpu), UCLAMP_MAX);
> >  
> > +	/* Return true only if the utilization doesn't fits CPU's capacity */
> 
> small typo: s/doesn't fits/doesn't fit
> 
> [...]
> 
> > @@ -6946,12 +6952,28 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
> >  
> >  		if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu) && !sched_idle_cpu(cpu))
> >  			continue;
> > -		if (util_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, cpu))
> > +
> > +		fits = util_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, cpu);
> > +
> > +		/* This CPU fits with all requirements */
> > +		if (fits > 0)
> >  			return cpu;
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Only the min performance hint (i.e. uclamp_min) doesn't fit.
> > +		 * Look for the CPU with best capacity.
> > +		 */
> > +		else if (fits < 0)
> > +			cpu_cap = capacity_orig_of(cpu) - thermal_load_avg(cpu_rq(cpu));
> 
> Still don't grasp why we use thermal_load_avg() here? Looks to me that
> this would only match the CapInv case in util_fits_cpu().
> 
> [...]
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-29 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-19 17:42 Vincent Guittot
2023-01-23 12:10 ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-25  8:26   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-25  1:46 ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-25  8:37   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-25 16:09     ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-26 11:42 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-27 16:20   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-31 16:36     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-29 16:21   ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2023-01-31 16:36     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-29 16:35 ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-30 14:13   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-30 19:30     ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-31 15:38       ` Vincent Guittot

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20230129162120.ynzgsxsdjwluucmk@airbuntu \
    --to=qyousef@layalina.io \
    --cc=Jonathan.JMChen@mediatek.com \
    --cc=dietmar.eggemann@arm.com \
    --cc=han.lin@mediatek.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-pm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lukasz.luba@arm.com \
    --cc=mingo@kernel.org \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=vincent.guittot@linaro.org \
    --cc=viresh.kumar@linaro.org \
    --cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
    --cc=wvw@google.com \
    --cc=xuewen.yan94@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®