From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, rafael@kernel.org,
viresh.kumar@linaro.org, vschneid@redhat.com,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lukasz.luba@arm.com, wvw@google.com, xuewen.yan94@gmail.com,
han.lin@mediatek.com, Jonathan.JMChen@mediatek.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/fair: unlink misfit task from cpu overutilized
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:21:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230129162120.ynzgsxsdjwluucmk@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5012cdf-ad5b-adf8-11f6-8ac2c3a89f0b@arm.com>
On 01/26/23 12:42, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 19/01/2023 17:42, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > By taking into account uclamp_min, the 1:1 relation between task misfit
> > and cpu overutilized is no more true as a task with a small util_avg may
> > not fit a high capacity cpu because of uclamp_min constraint.
> >
> > Add a new state in util_fits_cpu() to reflect the case that task would fit
> > a CPU except for the uclamp_min hint which is a performance requirement.
> >
> > Use -1 to reflect that a CPU doesn't fit only because of uclamp_min so we
> > can use this new value to take additional action to select the best CPU
> > that doesn't match uclamp_min hint.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > ---
> >
> > Change since v3:
> > - Keep current condition for uclamp_max_fits in util_fits_cpu()
> > - Update some comments
>
> We had already this discussion whether this patch can also remove
> Capacity Inversion (CapInv).
>
> After studying the code again, I'm not so sure anymore.
>
> This patch:
>
> (1) adds a dedicated return value (-1) to util_fits_cpu() when:
>
> `util fits 80% capacity_of() && util < uclamp_min && uclamp_min >
> capacity_orig_thermal (region c)`
>
> (2) Enhancements to the CPU selection in sic() and feec() to cater for
> this new return value.
-1 means that the task fits, but only uclamp_min hint fails. ie: the task util
is small enough to run on this cpu, but it would like to run faster and this
cpu can't satisfy this request at the moment.
>
> IMHO this doesn't make the intention of CapInv in util_fits_cpu()
> obsolete, which is using:
>
> in CapInv:
>
> capacity_orig = capacity_orig_of() - thermal_load_avg
> capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - thermal_load_avg
>
> not in CapInv:
>
> capacity_orig = capacity_orig_of()
> capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - th_pressure
>
> Maybe I still miss a bit of the story?
Vincent approach is different to mine. I tried to hide all the complexity in
util_fits_cpu() so all users don't care.
But with Vincent changes, now the decision is delegated to the caller to decide
what to do if thermal pressure is causing trouble.
IOW, I expect this line only stay after Vincent patch
capacity_orig_thermal = capacity_orig_of() - th_pressure
HTH
Cheers
--
Qais Yousef
>
> v3 hints to removing the bits in the next version:
>
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20230115001906.v7uq4ddodrbvye7d@airbuntu
>
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 105 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> > 1 file changed, 82 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index d4db72f8f84e..54e14da53274 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -4561,8 +4561,8 @@ static inline int util_fits_cpu(unsigned long util,
> > * handle the case uclamp_min > uclamp_max.
> > */
> > uclamp_min = min(uclamp_min, uclamp_max);
> > - if (util < uclamp_min && capacity_orig != SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE)
> > - fits = fits && (uclamp_min <= capacity_orig_thermal);
> > + if (fits && (util < uclamp_min) && (uclamp_min > capacity_orig_thermal))
> > + return -1;
>
> Or does the definition 'return -1 if util fits but uclamp doesn't' make
> the distinction between capacity_orig and capacity_orig_thermal obsolete
> and so CapInv?
>
> [...]
>
> > static inline void update_misfit_status(struct task_struct *p, struct rq *rq)
> > @@ -6138,6 +6142,7 @@ static inline bool cpu_overutilized(int cpu)
> > unsigned long rq_util_min = uclamp_rq_get(cpu_rq(cpu), UCLAMP_MIN);
> > unsigned long rq_util_max = uclamp_rq_get(cpu_rq(cpu), UCLAMP_MAX);
> >
> > + /* Return true only if the utilization doesn't fits CPU's capacity */
>
> small typo: s/doesn't fits/doesn't fit
>
> [...]
>
> > @@ -6946,12 +6952,28 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
> >
> > if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu) && !sched_idle_cpu(cpu))
> > continue;
> > - if (util_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, cpu))
> > +
> > + fits = util_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, cpu);
> > +
> > + /* This CPU fits with all requirements */
> > + if (fits > 0)
> > return cpu;
> > + /*
> > + * Only the min performance hint (i.e. uclamp_min) doesn't fit.
> > + * Look for the CPU with best capacity.
> > + */
> > + else if (fits < 0)
> > + cpu_cap = capacity_orig_of(cpu) - thermal_load_avg(cpu_rq(cpu));
>
> Still don't grasp why we use thermal_load_avg() here? Looks to me that
> this would only match the CapInv case in util_fits_cpu().
>
> [...]
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-29 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-19 17:42 Vincent Guittot
2023-01-23 12:10 ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-25 8:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-25 1:46 ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-25 8:37 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-25 16:09 ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-26 11:42 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-27 16:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-31 16:36 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-29 16:21 ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2023-01-31 16:36 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-01-29 16:35 ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-30 14:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-30 19:30 ` Qais Yousef
2023-01-31 15:38 ` Vincent Guittot
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