From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Wen Yang <wenyang.linux@foxmail.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Dylan Yudaken <dylany@fb.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Fu Wei <wefu@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eventfd: support delayed wakeup for non-semaphore eventfd to reduce cpu utilization
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:12:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230419-blinzeln-sortieren-343826ee30ce@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7dded5a8-32c1-e994-52a0-ce32011d5e6b@kernel.dk>
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 08:15:03PM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 4/17/23 10:32?AM, Wen Yang wrote:
> >
> > ? 2023/4/17 22:38, Jens Axboe ??:
> >> On 4/16/23 5:31?AM, wenyang.linux@foxmail.com wrote:
> >>> From: Wen Yang <wenyang.linux@foxmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> For the NON SEMAPHORE eventfd, if it's counter has a nonzero value,
> >>> then a read(2) returns 8 bytes containing that value, and the counter's
> >>> value is reset to zero. Therefore, in the NON SEMAPHORE scenario,
> >>> N event_writes vs ONE event_read is possible.
> >>>
> >>> However, the current implementation wakes up the read thread immediately
> >>> in eventfd_write so that the cpu utilization increases unnecessarily.
> >>>
> >>> By adding a configurable delay after eventfd_write, these unnecessary
> >>> wakeup operations are avoided, thereby reducing cpu utilization.
> >> What's the real world use case of this, and what would the expected
> >> delay be there? With using a delayed work item for this, there's
> >> certainly a pretty wide grey zone in terms of delay where this would
> >> perform considerably worse than not doing any delayed wakeups at all.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > We have found that the CPU usage of the message middleware is high in
> > our environment, because sensor messages from MCU are very frequent
> > and constantly reported, possibly several hundred thousand times per
> > second. As a result, the message receiving thread is frequently
> > awakened to process short messages.
> >
> > The following is the simplified test code:
> > https://github.com/w-simon/tests/blob/master/src/test.c
> >
> > And the test code in this patch is further simplified.
> >
> > Finally, only a configuration item has been added here, allowing users
> > to make more choices.
>
> I think you'd have a higher chance of getting this in if the delay
> setting was per eventfd context, rather than a global thing.
That patch seems really weird. Is that an established paradigm to
address problems like this through a configured wakeup delay? Because
naively this looks like a pretty brutal hack.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-19 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-16 11:31 wenyang.linux
2023-04-17 8:22 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-04-17 12:44 ` kernel test robot
2023-04-17 14:38 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-17 16:32 ` Wen Yang
2023-04-19 2:15 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-19 9:12 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-04-19 15:23 ` Wen Yang
2023-04-19 16:42 ` Jens Axboe
2023-04-20 17:44 ` Wen Yang
2023-05-04 16:01 ` Wen Yang
[not found] <20230417000711.1100-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-18 14:12 ` Wen Yang
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