From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Kaiyang Zhao <kaiyang2@cs.cmu.edu>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/26] mm: page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_FREE
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:25:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230421142533.nm44wkmh3wkudlqn@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230418191313.268131-12-hannes@cmpxchg.org>
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 03:12:58PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> To cut down on type mixing, put empty pageblocks on separate freelists
> and make them the first fallback preference before stealing space from
> incompatible blocks.
>
> The neutral block designation will also be handy in subsequent patches
> that: simplify compaction; add per-mt freelist counts and make
> compaction_suitable() more precise; and ultimately make pageblocks the
> basis of free memory management.
>
This patch is a line in the sand for the series. Patches 1-10 can stand
alone with supporting data because this is the first major change that
has a material impact on fragmentation avoidance and its overhead.
Maybe there is something in the later patches that makes the need for this
patch more obvious but putting the empty pageblocks on separate freelists
is not that helpful in itself. The main problem is that __rmqueue() starts
with __rmqueue_smallest which for huge pages is probably fine because
it searches first for free pageblocks, but it's not for SLUB high-order
allocations because __rmqueue_smallest for orders < pageblock_order
encourages mixing. Obviously it would also not be fine for contiguous page
allocations for page cache or anything else that is planned. If nothing
else, this patch highlights that fragmentation avoidance was originally
focused on huge pages which was fine at the time, but not any longer.
The need for MIGRATE_FREE type could potentially be avoided by having
__rmqueue() start with __rmqueue_smallest(order == pageblock_order) to
encourage full block usage first before mixing.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-21 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-18 19:12 [RFC PATCH 00/26] mm: reliable huge page allocator Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/26] block: bdev: blockdev page cache is movable Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 4:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-21 12:25 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/26] mm: compaction: avoid GFP_NOFS deadlocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:27 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 14:17 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/26] mm: make pageblock_order 2M per default Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 0:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-04-19 2:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 3:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-19 10:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-21 12:37 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/26] mm: page_isolation: write proper kerneldoc Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:39 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/26] mm: page_alloc: per-migratetype pcplist for THPs Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:47 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-28 10:29 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/26] mm: page_alloc: consolidate free page accounting Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:54 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/26] mm: page_alloc: move capture_control to the page allocator Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 12:59 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/26] mm: page_alloc: claim blocks during compaction capturing Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 13:12 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 14:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/26] mm: page_alloc: move expand() above compaction_capture() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/26] mm: page_alloc: allow compaction capturing from larger blocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:14 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 15:40 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-28 10:41 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/26] mm: page_alloc: introduce MIGRATE_FREE Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:25 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2023-04-18 19:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/26] mm: page_alloc: per-migratetype free counts Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:28 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 16:03 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 16:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 13/26] mm: compaction: remove compaction result helpers Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 14/26] mm: compaction: simplify should_compact_retry() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:36 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-25 2:15 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-25 0:56 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-25 2:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 15/26] mm: compaction: simplify free block check in suitable_migration_target() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:39 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 16/26] mm: compaction: improve compaction_suitable() accuracy Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 17/26] mm: compaction: refactor __compaction_suitable() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 18/26] mm: compaction: remove unnecessary is_via_compact_memory() checks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 19/26] mm: compaction: drop redundant watermark check in compaction_zonelist_suitable() Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 20/26] mm: vmscan: use compaction_suitable() check in kswapd Johannes Weiner
2023-04-25 3:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-25 14:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-26 1:30 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-26 15:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-27 5:41 ` Huang, Ying
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 21/26] mm: compaction: align compaction goals with reclaim goals Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 22/26] mm: page_alloc: manage free memory in whole pageblocks Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 23/26] mm: page_alloc: kill highatomic Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 24/26] mm: page_alloc: kill watermark boosting Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 25/26] mm: page_alloc: disallow fallbacks when 2M defrag is enabled Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 15:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-21 15:55 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-18 19:13 ` [RFC PATCH 26/26] mm: page_alloc: add sanity checks for migratetypes Johannes Weiner
2023-04-18 23:54 ` [RFC PATCH 00/26] mm: reliable huge page allocator Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-04-19 2:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-19 10:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 4:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-21 16:11 ` Mel Gorman
2023-04-21 17:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-02 15:21 ` David Hildenbrand
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