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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Daniel Sneddon <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>,
	"kvm @ vger . kernel . org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: VMX: remove LFENCE in vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host()
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:31:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230605173101.iflfly3bt6ydvvyk@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E704D6D6-3B03-40FA-8CDB-5FB58871BABC@nutanix.com>

On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 04:39:02PM +0000, Jon Kohler wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jun 5, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 02:29:02PM +0000, Jon Kohler wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:23 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 06:24:29PM -0700, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> ## 2023-05-31
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 01:50:48AM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >>>>> On 01/06/2023 1:42 am, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> >>>>>> So each LFENCE has a distinct purpose.  That said, there are no indirect
> >>>>>> branches or unbalanced RETs between them.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> How lucky are you feeling?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> You're in C at this point, which means the compiler could have emitted a
> >>>>> call to mem{cpy,cmp}() in place of a simple assignment/comparison.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Moving the second LFENCE to the else part of WRMSR should be possible?
> >>>> So that the serialization can be achived either by WRMSR or LFENCE. This
> >>>> saves an LFENCE when host and guest value of MSR_SPEC_CTRL differ.
> >>> 
> >>> Yes.  Though in practice it might not make much of a difference.  With
> >>> wrmsr+lfence, the lfence has nothing to do so it might be almost
> >>> instantaneous anyway.
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Josh
> >> 
> >> Coming back to this, what if we hoisted call vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host above
> >> FILL_RETURN_BUFFER, and dropped this LFENCE as I did here?
> >> 
> >> That way, we wouldn’t have to mess with the internal LFENCE in nospec-branch.h,
> >> and that would act as the “final line of defense” LFENCE.
> >> 
> >> Would that be acceptable? Or does FILL_RETURN_BUFFER *need* to occur
> >> before any sort of calls no matter what?
> > 
> > If we go by Intel's statement that only unbalanced RETs are a concern,
> > that *might* be ok as long as there's a nice comment above the
> > FILL_RETURN_BUFFER usage site describing the two purposes for the
> > LFENCE.

We would then need FILL_RETURN_BUFFER to unconditionally execute LFENCE
to account for wrmsr branch misprediction. Currently LFENCE is not
executed for !X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB.

> > However, based on Andy's concerns, which I've discussed with him
> > privately (but I'm not qualified to agree or disagree with), we may want
> > to just convert vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host() to asm.  Better safe than
> > sorry.  My original implementation of that function was actually asm.  I
> > can try to dig up that code.

Note:

  VMexit
  CALL
    RET
  RET    <---- This is also a problem if the first call hasn't retired yet.
  LFENCE

Converting vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host() to ASM should be able to take care
of this.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-31 15:01 Jon Kohler
2023-05-31 23:18 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-05-31 23:58   ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-01  0:42     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01  0:50       ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-01  0:56         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01  1:24         ` Pawan Gupta
2023-06-01  4:23           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-05 14:29             ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 16:35               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-05 16:39                 ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 17:31                   ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2023-06-05 18:31                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-05 19:57                       ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 20:01                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-06  0:20                 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-06  3:59                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01  0:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-01  0:53   ` Josh Poimboeuf

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