From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH REPOST 2/2] signal: Don't disable preemption in ptrace_stop() on PREEMPT_RT.
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 13:14:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606111418.GA906324@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230606110447.GA7542@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 01:04:48PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> The patch LGTM, but I am a bit confused by the changelog/comments,
> I guess I missed something...
>
> On 06/06, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> >
> > --- a/kernel/signal.c
> > +++ b/kernel/signal.c
> > @@ -2328,11 +2328,16 @@ static int ptrace_stop(int exit_code, int why, unsigned long message,
> > * The preempt-disable section ensures that there will be no preemption
> > * between unlock and schedule() and so improving the performance since
> > * the ptracer has no reason to sleep.
> > + *
> > + * This optimisation is not doable on PREEMPT_RT due to the spinlock_t
> > + * within the preempt-disable section.
> > */
> > - preempt_disable();
> > + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT))
> > + preempt_disable();
>
> Not only we the problems with cgroup_enter_frozen(), afaics (please correct me)
> this optimisation doesn't work on RT anyway?
>
> IIUC, read_lock() on RT disables migration but not preemption, so it is simply
> too late to do preempt_disable() before unlock/schedule. The tracer can preempt
> the tracee right after do_notify_parent_cldstop().
Correct -- but I think you can disable preemption over what is
effectivly rwsem_up_read(), but you can't over the effective
rtmutex_lock() that cgroup_enter_frozen() will then attempt.
(iow, unlock() doesn't tend to sleep, while lock() does)
But you're correct to point out that the whole preempt_disable() thing
is entirely pointless due to the whole task_lock region being
preemptible before it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-06 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-06 8:55 [PATCH REPOST 0/2] signal: Avoid preempt_disable() " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-06 8:55 ` [PATCH REPOST 1/2] signal: Add proper comment about the preempt-disable in ptrace_stop() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-06 11:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 8:55 ` [PATCH REPOST 2/2] signal: Don't disable preemption in ptrace_stop() on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-06 11:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 11:14 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-06-06 11:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-06-06 13:16 ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-06-06 13:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
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