From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Yan Zhai <yan@cloudflare.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/2] net: Use SMP threads for backlog NAPI.
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:57:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230818145734.OgLYhPh1@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO3-Pbo7q6Y-xzP=3f58Y3MyWT2Vruy6UhKiam2=mAKArxgMag@mail.gmail.com>
On 2023-08-18 09:43:08 [-0500], Yan Zhai wrote:
> > Looking at the cloudflare ppl here in the thread, I doubt they use
> > backlog but have proper NAPI so they might not need this.
> >
> Cloudflare does have backlog usage. On some veths we have to turn GRO
Oh. Okay.
> off to cope with multi-layer encapsulation, and there is also no XDP
> attached on these interfaces, thus the backlog is used. There are also
> other usage of backlog, tuntap, loopback and bpf-redirect ingress.
> Frankly speaking, making a NAPI instance "threaded" itself is not a
> concern. We have threaded NAPI running on some veth for quite a while,
> and it performs pretty well. The concern, if any, would be the
> maturity of new code. I am happy to help derisk with some lab tests
> and dogfooding if generic agreement is reached to proceed with this
> idea.
If you have threaded NAPI for veth then you wouldn't be affected by this
code. However, if you _are_ affected by this and you use veth it would
be helpful to figure out if you have problems as of net-next and if this
helps or makes it worse.
As of now Jakub isn't eager to have it and my testing/ convincing is
quite limited. If nobody else yells that something like that would be
helpful I would simply go and convince PeterZ/tglx to apply 2/2 of this
series.
> Yan
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-18 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-14 9:35 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-14 9:35 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-21 8:32 ` kernel test robot
2023-08-23 13:35 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-09-20 15:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-21 10:41 ` Ferenc Fejes
2023-09-22 7:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-09-22 9:38 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-08-14 9:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] softirq: Drop the warning from do_softirq_post_smp_call_flush() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-15 12:08 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-08-15 22:31 ` Yan Zhai
2023-08-16 14:48 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-08-16 15:15 ` Yan Zhai
2023-08-16 21:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2023-08-18 15:49 ` Yan Zhai
2023-08-16 15:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-14 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/2] net: Use SMP threads for backlog NAPI Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-17 13:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-17 15:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-18 9:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-18 14:43 ` Yan Zhai
2023-08-18 14:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2023-08-18 16:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-18 16:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-08-23 6:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-08-18 16:56 ` Yan Zhai
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