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From: Krister Johansen <kjlx@templeofstupid.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>,
	Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	"Guilherme G. Piccoli" <kernel@gpiccoli.net>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Triggering a softlockup panic during SMP boot
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:06:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231027230634.GE2105@templeofstupid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZTw0CACF3jtT3/dX@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 03:04:56PM -0700, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 02:46:26PM -0700, Krister Johansen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > This pair of patches was the result of an unsuccessful attempt to set
> > softlockup_panic before SMP boot.  The rationale for wanting to set this
> > parameter is that some of the VMs that my team runs will occasionally
> > get stuck while onlining the non-boot processors as part of SMP boot.
> > 
> > In the cases where this happens, we find out about it after the instance
> > successfully boots; however, the machines can get stuck for tens of
> > minutes at a time before finally completing onlining processors.  Since
> > we pay per minute for many of these VMs there were two goals for setting
> > this value on boot: first, fail fast and hope that a subsequent boot
> > attempt will be successful.  Second, a panic is a little easier to keep
> > track of, especially if we're scraping serial logs after the fact.  In
> > essence, the goal is to trigger the failure earlier and hopefully get
> > more useful information for further debugging the problem as well.
> > 
> > While testing to make sure that this value was getting correctly set on
> > boot, I ran into a pair of surprises.  First, when the softlockup_panic
> > parameter was migrated to a sysctl alias, it had the side effect of
> > setting the parameter value after SMP boot has occurred, when it used to
> > be set before this.  Second, testing revealed that even though the
> > aliases were being correctly processed, the kernel was reporting the
> > commandline arguments as unrecognized. This generated a message in the
> > logs about an unrecognized parameter (even though it was) and the
> > parameter was passed as an environment variable to init.
> > 
> > The first patch ensures that aliased sysctl arguments are not reported
> > as unrecognized boot arguments.
> > 
> > The second patch moves the setting of softlockup_panic earlier in boot,
> > where it can take effect before SMP boot beings.
> 
> Sounds all great but I only got the cover letter, so may be resend?

Apologies, I'm not sure quite what went wrong there.  I've resent the
patches to the people in the To: of the original messages, in an attempt
to avoid sending copies to everybody a second time.

The entire set seems to have made it to lore:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ZTw0CACF3jtT3%2FdX@bombadil.infradead.org/T/#r831972d73aad653c3b732e4e36e743cd53673847

If you still haven't got the copies, please let me know and I'll see
if there's something else I can do to get them to you.

Sorry about this. :/

-K

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-27 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-27 21:46 Krister Johansen
2023-10-27 21:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] proc: sysctl: prevent aliased sysctls from getting passed to init Krister Johansen
2023-10-27 21:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] watchdog: move softlockup_panic back to early_param Krister Johansen
2023-10-27 22:04 ` [PATCH 0/2] Triggering a softlockup panic during SMP boot Luis Chamberlain
2023-10-27 23:06   ` Krister Johansen [this message]
2023-11-01 19:10 ` Luis Chamberlain

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