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From: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
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Subject: Re: [v3 2/3] mm: Defer TLB flush by keeping both src and dst folios at migration
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:13:47 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231110031347.GA62514@system.software.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231110010201.GA72073@system.software.com>

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:02:01AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 10:16:57AM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On Nov 8, 2023, at 6:12 AM, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > !! External Email
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 09:51:30PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > >>>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> index 6c264d2f969c..75dc48b6e15f 100644
> > >>>> --- a/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > >>>> @@ -3359,6 +3359,19 @@ static vm_fault_t do_wp_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> > >>>>  if (vmf->page)
> > >>>>          folio = page_folio(vmf->page);
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> + /*
> > >>>> +  * This folio has its read copy to prevent inconsistency while
> > >>>> +  * deferring TLB flushes. However, the problem might arise if
> > >>>> +  * it's going to become writable.
> > >>>> +  *
> > >>>> +  * To prevent it, give up the deferring TLB flushes and perform
> > >>>> +  * TLB flush right away.
> > >>>> +  */
> > >>>> + if (folio && migrc_pending_folio(folio)) {
> > >>>> +         migrc_unpend_folio(folio);
> > >>>> +         migrc_try_flush_free_folios(NULL);
> > >>> 
> > >>> So many potential function calls… Probably they should have been combined
> > >>> into one and at least migrc_pending_folio() should have been an inline
> > >>> function in the header.
> > >> 
> > >> I will try to change it as you mention.
> > >> 
> > >>>> + }
> > >>>> +
> > >>> 
> > >>> What about mprotect? I thought David has changed it so it can set writable
> > >>> PTEs.
> > >> 
> > >> I will check it out.
> > > 
> > > I found mprotect stuff is already performing TLB flushes needed for it.
> > > So some redundant TLB flushes might happen by migrc but it's not that
> > > harmful I think. Thanks.
> > 
> > Let me explain the scenario I am concerned with. Assume page P is RO, and
> > moves from Psrc to Pdst. Pointer “p” points to P. Initially (*p == 0).
> > 
> > Let’s also assume we also have an atomic variable “a”. Initially (a == 0).
> > 
> > I hope I got the migration function names right, but I hope the problem
> > itself can be clear regardless. 
> > 
> > CPU0			CPU1			CPU2		CPU3
> > ----			----			----		----
> > 			(user-mode)		(user-mode)		
> > 
> > 			Access *p
> > 			[Psrc cached in TLB]
> >  
> > migrate_pages_batch()
> > -> migrate_folio_unmap()
> > 
> > [ PTE updated, 
> >   still no flush ]
> > 
> > 								mprotect(p,
> > 									RW)
> 
> Here,
> 
> mprotect()
>    do_mprotect_pkey()
>       tlb_finish_mmu()
>          tlb_flush_mmu()
> 
> I thought TLB flush for mprotect() is performed by tlb_flush_mmu() so
> any cached TLB entries on other CPUs can have chance to update. Could
> you correct me if I get it wrong? Thanks.

I guess you tried to inform me that x86 mmu automatically keeps the
consistancy based on cached TLB entries. Right? If yes, I should do
something on that path. If not, it's not problematic. Thoughts?

	Byungchul

> 	Byungchul
> 
> > 
> > 								[ Psrc is
> > 								  RW ]
> > 
> > 								[ flush
> > 								  deferred]
> > 
> > 
> > 						*p = 1  # Pdst
> > 						
> > 						xchg(&a, 1)
> > 			mfence
> > 			if (a == 1)
> > 			  assert(*p == 1);
> > 
> > 
> > 				
> > Now at this point the assertion might fail. CPU2 wrote into Pdst, whereas
> > CPU1 reads from Psrc. But based on x86 memory model, userspace might not
> > expect this scenario to be possible, hence leading to bugs.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-10  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30  7:25 [v3 0/3] Reduce TLB flushes under some specific conditions Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  7:25 ` [v3 1/3] mm/rmap: Recognize non-writable TLB entries during TLB batch flush Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  7:52   ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-30 10:26     ` Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  7:25 ` [v3 2/3] mm: Defer TLB flush by keeping both src and dst folios at migration Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  8:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-30  9:58     ` Byungchul Park
2023-11-01  3:06       ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-30  8:50   ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-30 12:51     ` Byungchul Park
2023-10-30 15:58       ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-30 22:40         ` Byungchul Park
2023-11-08  4:12       ` Byungchul Park
2023-11-09 10:16         ` Nadav Amit
2023-11-10  1:02           ` Byungchul Park
2023-11-10  3:13             ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2023-11-10 22:18               ` Nadav Amit
2023-11-15  5:48                 ` Byungchul Park
2023-11-09  5:35       ` Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  7:25 ` [v3 3/3] mm, migrc: Add a sysctl knob to enable/disable MIGRC mechanism Byungchul Park
2023-10-30  8:51   ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-30 10:36     ` Byungchul Park
2023-10-30 17:55 ` [v3 0/3] Reduce TLB flushes under some specific conditions Dave Hansen
2023-10-30 18:32   ` Nadav Amit
2023-10-30 22:55   ` Byungchul Park
2023-10-31  8:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-31  2:37   ` Byungchul Park

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