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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
Cc: Alexander Mikhalitsyn <aleksandr.mikhalitsyn@canonical.com>,
	 stgraber@stgraber.org, cyphar@cyphar.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] tests/pid_namespace: add pid_max tests
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 17:24:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240223-kantholz-knallen-558beba46c62@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zdd8MAJJD3M11yeR@tycho.pizza>

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 09:54:08AM -0700, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 05:09:15PM +0100, Alexander Mikhalitsyn wrote:
> > +static int pid_max_nested_limit_inner(void *data)
> > +{
> > +	int fret = -1, nr_procs = 400;
> > +	int fd, ret;
> > +	pid_t pid;
> > +	pid_t pids[1000];
> > +
> > +	ret = mount("", "/", NULL, MS_PRIVATE | MS_REC, 0);
> > +	if (ret) {
> > +		fprintf(stderr, "%m - Failed to make rootfs private mount\n");
> > +		return fret;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	umount2("/proc", MNT_DETACH);
> > +
> > +	ret = mount("proc", "/proc", "proc", 0, NULL);
> > +	if (ret) {
> > +		fprintf(stderr, "%m - Failed to mount proc\n");
> > +		return fret;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	fd = open("/proc/sys/kernel/pid_max", O_RDWR | O_CLOEXEC | O_NOCTTY);
> > +	if (fd < 0) {
> > +		fprintf(stderr, "%m - Failed to open pid_max\n");
> > +		return fret;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	ret = write(fd, "500", sizeof("500") - 1);
> > +	close(fd);
> > +	if (ret < 0) {
> > +		fprintf(stderr, "%m - Failed to write pid_max\n");
> > +		return fret;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	for (nr_procs = 0; nr_procs < 500; nr_procs++) {
> > +		pid = fork();
> > +		if (pid < 0)
> > +			break;
> > +
> > +		if (pid == 0)
> > +			exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
> > +
> > +		pids[nr_procs] = pid;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	if (nr_procs >= 400) {
> > +		fprintf(stderr, "Managed to create processes beyond the configured outer limit\n");
> > +		goto reap;
> > +	}
> 
> A small quibble, but I wonder about the semantics here. "You can write
> whatever you want to this file, but we'll ignore it sometimes" seems
> weird to me. What if someone (CRIU) wants to spawn a pid numbered 450
> in this case? I suppose they read pid_max first, they'll be able to
> tell it's impossible and can exit(1), but returning E2BIG from write()
> might be more useful.

That's a good idea. But it's a bit tricky. The straightforward thing is
to walk upwards through all ancestor pid namespaces and use the lowest
pid_max value as the upper bound for the current pid namespace. This
will guarantee that you get an error when you try to write a value that
you would't be able to create. The same logic should probably apply to
ns_last_pid as well.

However, that still leaves cases where the current pid namespace writes
a pid_max limit that is allowed (IOW, all ancestor pid namespaces are
above that limit.). But then immediately afterwards an ancestor pid
namespace lowers the pid_max limit. So you can always end up in a
scenario like this. 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-22 16:09 [PATCH v1 0/2] pid_namespace: namespacify sysctl kernel.pid_max Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-02-22 16:09 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] pid: allow pid_max to be set per pid namespace Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-02-22 16:09 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] tests/pid_namespace: add pid_max tests Alexander Mikhalitsyn
2024-02-22 16:54   ` Tycho Andersen
2024-02-23 16:24     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-02-24 14:59       ` Tycho Andersen
2024-02-26  8:57         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-26 15:30           ` Tycho Andersen
2024-02-26 15:45             ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-29 15:14             ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn
2024-02-29 16:11               ` Aleksandr Mikhalitsyn

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