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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Christian Konig <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	minhquangbui99@gmail.com,
	syzbot+045b454ab35fd82a35fb@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ better about file lifetimes
Date: Sat,  4 May 2024 17:25:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240504092555.2071-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240503212428.GY2118490@ZenIV>

On Fri, 3 May 2024 22:24:28 +0100 Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 02:11:30PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > epoll is a mess, and does various invalid things in the name of
> > performance.
> > 
> > Let's try to rein it in a bit. Something like this, perhaps?
> 
> > +/*
> > + * The ffd.file pointer may be in the process of
> > + * being torn down due to being closed, but we
> > + * may not have finished eventpoll_release() yet.
> > + *
> > + * Technically, even with the atomic_long_inc_not_zero,
> > + * the file may have been free'd and then gotten
> > + * re-allocated to something else (since files are
> > + * not RCU-delayed, they are SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU).
> 
> Can we get to ep_item_poll(epi, ...) after eventpoll_release_file()
> got past __ep_remove()?  Because if we can, we have a worse problem -

Nope but mtx can help poll go before remove, see below.

> epi freed under us.
> 
> If not, we couldn't possibly have reached ->release() yet, let
> alone freeing anything.

Actually poll can see a file with zero f_count, and LT's idea with
trival change survived the syzbot repro [1].

I think fput currently can race with epoll wrt f_count, and checking
it in dma-buf is necessary if his idea looks too aggressive.

	wait_epoll()			__fput()
	do_epoll_wait()			eventpoll_release_file()
	ep_poll()
	ep_send_events()
	mutex_lock(&ep->mtx)
	ep_item_poll()
	vfs_poll()
	mutex_unlock(&ep->mtx)
					mutex_lock(&ep->mtx)
					dispose = __ep_remove(ep, epi, true)
					mutex_unlock(&ep->mtx)

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/000000000000f1c99d061798ac6d@google.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-04  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-08  8:26 [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove syzbot
2024-04-15 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-15 14:57   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-03 11:54 ` Bui Quang Minh
2024-05-03 18:26   ` get_file() unsafe under epoll (was Re: [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove) Kees Cook
2024-05-03 18:49     ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-03 19:22       ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 19:35         ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-03 19:59           ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 20:28             ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 21:11               ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:30                   ` Al Viro
2024-05-06 17:46                   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2024-05-06 18:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08  8:47                       ` David Laight
2024-05-03 21:36                 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:53                     ` Al Viro
2024-05-06 12:23                       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-04  9:59             ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-03 21:11     ` [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ better about file lifetimes Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:24       ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 21:45           ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 21:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 22:01               ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 22:07                 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-03 23:39                     ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:54                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 10:44                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-03 22:46               ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 23:03                 ` Al Viro
2024-05-03 23:23                   ` Kees Cook
2024-05-03 23:41                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04  9:19                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06 12:37                       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-04  9:37           ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-04 15:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 15:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 15:53                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 19:46                   ` Al Viro
2024-05-05 20:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 20:30                       ` Al Viro
2024-05-05 20:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-06 12:47                           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 14:46                             ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-07 10:58                               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 16:15                           ` Christian König
2024-05-05 10:50                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-05 16:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 17:55                     ` [PATCH v2] epoll: be " Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 18:04                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-05 20:01                       ` David Laight
2024-05-05 20:16                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-05 20:12                     ` [PATCH] epoll: try to be a _bit_ " Al Viro
2024-05-06  8:45                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06  9:26                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-06 14:19                         ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-07 21:02                       ` David Laight
2024-05-04 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-06 14:29                 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2024-05-07 11:02                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 16:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-07 17:45                       ` Christian König
2024-05-08  7:51                         ` Michel Dänzer
2024-05-08  7:59                           ` Christian König
2024-05-08  8:23                         ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08  9:10                           ` Christian König
2024-05-07 18:04                       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 19:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08  5:55                           ` Christian König
2024-05-08  8:32                             ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 10:16                               ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08  8:05                           ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 16:19                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-08 17:14                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-09 11:38                               ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-09 15:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-10  6:33                                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 10:08                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-08 15:45                     ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-10 10:55                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-11 18:25                         ` David Laight
2024-05-04  9:25         ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2024-05-05 17:31       ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-04  9:45     ` get_file() unsafe under epoll (was Re: [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove) Christian Brauner
2024-05-04  3:23 ` [syzbot] [fs?] [io-uring?] general protection fault in __ep_remove Hillf Danton
2024-05-04  3:46   ` [syzbot] [fs] " syzbot

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