From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Lucas Karpinski <lkarpins@redhat.com>,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, raven@themaw.net,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>,
Eric Chanudet <echanude@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 1/1] fs/namespace: remove RCU sync for MNT_DETACH umount
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 06:58:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240702-sauna-tattoo-31b01a5f98f6@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240628111345.3bbcgie4gar6icyj@quack3>
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 01:13:45PM GMT, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 28-06-24 10:58:54, Ian Kent wrote:
> >
> > On 27/6/24 19:54, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Thu 27-06-24 09:11:14, Ian Kent wrote:
> > > > On 27/6/24 04:47, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 04:07:49PM -0400, Lucas Karpinski wrote:
> > > > > > +++ b/fs/namespace.c
> > > > > > @@ -78,6 +78,7 @@ static struct kmem_cache *mnt_cache __ro_after_init;
> > > > > > static DECLARE_RWSEM(namespace_sem);
> > > > > > static HLIST_HEAD(unmounted); /* protected by namespace_sem */
> > > > > > static LIST_HEAD(ex_mountpoints); /* protected by namespace_sem */
> > > > > > +static bool lazy_unlock = false; /* protected by namespace_sem */
> > > > > That's a pretty ugly way of doing it. How about this?
> > > > Ha!
> > > >
> > > > That was my original thought but I also didn't much like changing all the
> > > > callers.
> > > >
> > > > I don't really like the proliferation of these small helper functions either
> > > > but if everyone
> > > >
> > > > is happy to do this I think it's a great idea.
> > > So I know you've suggested removing synchronize_rcu_expedited() call in
> > > your comment to v2. But I wonder why is it safe? I *thought*
> > > synchronize_rcu_expedited() is there to synchronize the dropping of the
> > > last mnt reference (and maybe something else) - see the comment at the
> > > beginning of mntput_no_expire() - and this change would break that?
> >
> > Interesting, because of the definition of lazy umount I didn't look closely
> > enough at that.
> >
> > But I wonder, how exactly would that race occur, is holding the rcu read
> > lock sufficient since the rcu'd mount free won't be done until it's
> > released (at least I think that's how rcu works).
>
> I'm concerned about a race like:
>
> [path lookup] [umount -l]
> ...
> path_put()
> mntput(mnt)
> mntput_no_expire(m)
> rcu_read_lock();
> if (likely(READ_ONCE(mnt->mnt_ns))) {
> do_umount()
> umount_tree()
> ...
> mnt->mnt_ns = NULL;
> ...
> namespace_unlock()
> mntput(&m->mnt)
> mntput_no_expire(mnt)
> smp_mb();
> mnt_add_count(mnt, -1);
> count = mnt_get_count(mnt);
> if (count != 0) {
> ...
> return;
> mnt_add_count(mnt, -1);
> rcu_read_unlock();
> return;
> -> KABOOM, mnt->mnt_count dropped to 0 but nobody cleaned up the mount!
> }
Yeah, I think that's a valid concern. mntput_no_expire() requires that
the last reference is dropped after an rcu grace period and that can
only be done by synchronize_rcu_*() (It could be reworked but that would
be quite ugly.). See also mnt_make_shortterm() caller's for kernel
initiated unmounts.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-02 4:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-26 20:07 [RFC v3 0/1] fs/namespace: defer " Lucas Karpinski
2024-06-26 20:07 ` [RFC v3 1/1] fs/namespace: remove " Lucas Karpinski
2024-06-26 20:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-27 1:11 ` Ian Kent
2024-06-27 11:54 ` Jan Kara
2024-06-27 15:16 ` Christian Brauner
2024-06-28 3:17 ` Ian Kent
2024-06-28 12:54 ` Christian Brauner
2024-06-28 15:13 ` Alexander Larsson
2024-07-01 0:58 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-01 5:50 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-01 8:03 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-01 8:41 ` Alexander Larsson
2024-07-01 10:15 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-01 12:13 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-01 12:10 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-03 9:22 ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-04 1:23 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-02 1:29 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-02 4:50 ` Christian Brauner
2024-06-28 2:58 ` Ian Kent
2024-06-28 11:13 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-01 1:08 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-02 4:58 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-07-02 7:01 ` Ian Kent
2024-07-02 10:01 ` Jan Kara
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