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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Saurabh Sengar <ssengar@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ssengar@microsoft.com, wei.liu@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmstat: Defer the refresh_zone_stat_thresholds after all CPUs bringup
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:59:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240705135911.4a6e38379ae95c3fc6bbe7e2@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1720169301-21002-1-git-send-email-ssengar@linux.microsoft.com>

On Fri,  5 Jul 2024 01:48:21 -0700 Saurabh Sengar <ssengar@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:

> refresh_zone_stat_thresholds function has two loops which is expensive for
> higher number of CPUs and NUMA nodes.
> 
> Below is the rough estimation of total iterations done by these loops
> based on number of NUMA and CPUs.
> 
> Total number of iterations: nCPU * 2 * Numa * mCPU
> Where:
>  nCPU = total number of CPUs
>  Numa = total number of NUMA nodes
>  mCPU = mean value of total CPUs (e.g., 512 for 1024 total CPUs)
> 
> For the system under test with 16 NUMA nodes and 1024 CPUs, this
> results in a substantial increase in the number of loop iterations
> during boot-up when NUMA is enabled:
> 
> No NUMA = 1024*2*1*512  =   1,048,576 : Here refresh_zone_stat_thresholds
> takes around 224 ms total for all the CPUs in the system under test.
> 16 NUMA = 1024*2*16*512 =  16,777,216 : Here refresh_zone_stat_thresholds
> takes around 4.5 seconds total for all the CPUs in the system under test.

Did you measure the overall before-and-after times?  IOW, how much of
that 4.5s do we reclaim?

> Calling this for each CPU is expensive when there are large number
> of CPUs along with multiple NUMAs. Fix this by deferring
> refresh_zone_stat_thresholds to be called later at once when all the
> secondary CPUs are up. Also, register the DYN hooks to keep the
> existing hotplug functionality intact.
> 

Seems risky - we'll now have online CPUs which have unintialized data,
yes?  What assurance do we have that this data won't be accessed?

Another approach might be to make the code a bit smarter - instead of
calculating thresholds for the whole world, we make incremental changes
to the existing thresholds on behalf of the new resource which just
became available?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-05 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-05  8:48 Saurabh Sengar
2024-07-05 20:59 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2024-07-09  4:57   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-07-09 21:45     ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-10  7:04     ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-12  4:37       ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-13 23:37         ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-23 15:32     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-08-28  5:37       ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2024-08-28 15:43         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-08-09  5:20 ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-09  5:49   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar

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