From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8E851B86EC; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721422171; cv=none; b=F5wCDIsuhEUoFLsUP9pL/DIRBTFJfX43oK2fCH72REH7TKbmoMJ1VDwbVwWqBnWL3QQoKvQE0coxUWG6pLCjk4P87L/JDh4DmZKK7Za7lUdQnUl79fUs+IbFmSqDHuWvQ1rB/42Y+wEwjfKPZcXXmgWZZbbZRyqISPmXtOyZtnU= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721422171; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wyRlpQ4hI7FapDcQRHRoxYiLS9yDAfcb74CF9XRKd/U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References: Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tIInE/6tmkug9xqJaWkAt8T16DdAew6NvYfuMhCTlJEB69hXjhybTr2/9qSVi0hzTH5cal9/FwWoHI9A8vhJ42zU+zCzechCLkdAcz5AzJHgMnj0VKF+l7GB5UAYOC7HbfZJk0ZgeJpAubJXxYIUA7g/JQyn/0zUAtVW2qHx3TQ= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux-foundation.org header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.b=ARw3dmiL; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux-foundation.org header.i=@linux-foundation.org header.b="ARw3dmiL" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE586C32782; Fri, 19 Jul 2024 20:49:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linux-foundation.org; s=korg; t=1721422171; bh=wyRlpQ4hI7FapDcQRHRoxYiLS9yDAfcb74CF9XRKd/U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ARw3dmiLOIKrSELhjaymX8Ec0t62FW/yv2qGsNLIVnTEY0ad7MRuqYkOp7g7WUQhO IHJqeQHpq7Y+ohflT/VP9f9vl0SaEwBdlMxn3PXXb+bF7+pCyBfWp0nsTUI0jmEQjH INORm0NlZBmMiRKWKzLbWhkR7de52He+LJ0JBis8= Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:49:30 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Lorenzo Stoakes Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka , Matthew Wilcox , Alexander Viro , Christian Brauner , Jan Kara , Eric Biederman , Kees Cook , Suren Baghdasaryan , SeongJae Park , Shuah Khan , Brendan Higgins , David Gow , Rae Moar Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Make core VMA operations internal and testable Message-Id: <20240719134930.db9f6ce24a52b9bd6416e688@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <8768fe2a-e4f7-4831-b608-cb3d21556534@lucifer.local> References: <8a2e590e-ff4c-4906-b229-269cd7c99948@lucifer.local> <20240710195408.c14d80b73e58af6b73be6376@linux-foundation.org> <3sdist4b5ojz2iyatqgtngilrkudb63i7b6kp3aeeufl3vrnt6@p4icz5igbsix> <8768fe2a-e4f7-4831-b608-cb3d21556534@lucifer.local> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 11:52:00 +0100 Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > > > It's really big and it's quite new and it's really late. I think it best to await the > > > next -rc cycle, see how much grief it all causes. > > > > Yes, this patch set is huge. > > > > It is, however, extremely necessary to get to the point where we can > > test things better than full system tests (and then wait for a distro to > > rebuild all their rpms and find a missed issue). I know a lot of people > > would rather see everything in a kunit test, but the reality is that, at > > this level in the kernel, we cannot test as well as we can with the > > userspace approach. > > > > With the scope of the change, it will be a lot of work to develop in > > parallel and rebase on top of the moving of this code. I'm wondering if > > you can provide some more information on your plan? Will this be the > > first series in your mm-unstable branch after the release? iow, should I > > be developing on top of the code moving around for my future work? I am > > happy enough to rebase my in-flight MAP_FIXED patches on top of this set > > if that helps things along. > > > > Thanks, > > Liam > > Thanks Liam! > > I think best way forward unless you feel we should take a different > approach Andrew is for me to simply wait until the end of the merge window > and at the start of the week after rebase on 6.11-rc1 and do a resend? How about you send out a version early next week and I'll aim to send it in to Linus late in this merge window?