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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, Gao Xiang <xiang@kernel.org>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	netfs@lists.linux.dev, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	 linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: Fix potential circular locking through setxattr() and removexattr()
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 17:40:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240723-fracksausen-absehbar-033713f1e9b5@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2147168.1721743066@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 02:57:46PM GMT, David Howells wrote:
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > Well, it seems like you are trying to get rid of the dependency
> > sb_writers->mmap_sem. But there are other places where this dependency is
> > created, in particular write(2) path is a place where it would be very
> > difficult to get rid of it (you take sb_writers, then do all the work
> > preparing the write and then you copy user data into page cache which
> > may require mmap_sem).
> >
> > ...
> > 
> > This is the problematic step - from quite deep in the locking chain holding
> > invalidate_lock and having PG_Writeback set you suddently jump to very outer
> > locking context grabbing sb_writers. Now AFAICT this is not a real deadlock
> > problem because the locks are actually on different filesystems, just
> > lockdep isn't able to see this. So I don't think you will get rid of these
> > lockdep splats unless you somehow manage to convey to lockdep that there's
> > the "upper" fs (AFS in this case) and the "lower" fs (the one behind
> > cachefiles) and their locks are different.
> 
> I'm not sure you're correct about that.  If you look at the lockdep splat:
> 
> >  -> #2 (sb_writers#14){.+.+}-{0:0}:
> 
> The sb_writers lock is "personalised" to the filesystem type (the "#14"
> annotation) which is set here:
> 
> 	for (i = 0; i < SB_FREEZE_LEVELS; i++) {
> 		if (__percpu_init_rwsem(&s->s_writers.rw_sem[i],
> 					sb_writers_name[i],
> 					&type->s_writers_key[i]))  <----
> 			goto fail;
> 	}
> 
> in fs/super.c.
> 
> I think the problem is (1) that on one side, you've got, say, sys_setxattr()
> taking an sb_writers lock and then accessing a userspace buffer, which (a) may
> take mm->mmap_lock and vma->vm_lock and (b) may cause reading or writeback
> from the netfs-based filesystem via an mmapped xattr name buffer].
> 
> Then (2) on the other side, you have a read or a write to the network
> filesystem through netfslib which may invoke the cache, which may require
> cachefiles to check the xattr on the cache file and maybe set/remove it -
> which requires the sb_writers lock on the cache filesystem.
> 
> So if ->read_folio(), ->readahead() or ->writepages() can ever be called with
> mm->mmap_lock or vma->vm_lock held, netfslib may call down to cachefiles and
> ultimately, it should[*] then take the sb_writers lock on the backing
> filesystem to perform xattr manipulation.
> 
> [*] I say "should" because at the moment cachefiles calls vfs_set/removexattr
>     functions which *don't* take this lock (which is a bug).  Is this an error
>     on the part of vfs_set/removexattr()?  Should they take this lock
>     analogously with vfs_truncate() and vfs_iocb_iter_write()?

It's not bug per se. We have a few vfs_*() functions that don't take
write access iirc. The reason often is that e.g., callers like overlayfs
call vfs_*() helpers in various locations where write access to the
underlying and overlayfs layer is taken some time before calling into
vs_*() helper (see ovl_do_setxattr() during various copy up operation
iirc.).

Fwiw, I suspect that e.g., ecryptfs doesn't claim write access at all to
the underlying filesystem - not just xattrs.

(What would probably be good is if we could add lockdep asserts so that
we get warnings about missing locks taken.)

> 
> However, as it doesn't it manages to construct a locking chain via the
> mapping.invalidate_lock, the afs vnode->validate_lock and something in execve
> that I don't exactly follow.
> 
> 
> I wonder if this is might be deadlockable by a multithreaded process (ie. so
> they share the mm locks) where one thread is writing to a cached file whilst
> another thread is trying to set/remove the xattr on that file.
> 
> David
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-23 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-23  8:59 David Howells
2024-07-23 10:45 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-23 11:11   ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-23 12:32     ` Jan Kara
2024-07-24  1:34   ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-24  2:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-23 12:57 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-23 13:57 ` David Howells
2024-07-23 15:40   ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-07-24 13:30   ` Jan Kara
2024-07-29 15:28     ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-31 18:16       ` Jan Kara
2024-07-31 18:27         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-31 18:55           ` Jan Kara
2024-07-24  8:11 ` David Howells

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