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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: nerdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
Cc: pmladek@suse.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, john.ogness@linutronix.de,
	senozhatsky@chromium.org, tglx@linutronix.de, tony@atomide.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VT-less kernels, and /dev/console on x86
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 07:12:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024081824-leggings-omission-562a@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2669238.7s5MMGUR32@nerdopolis2>

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 08:09:20PM -0400, nerdopolis wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I originally brought this up on linux-serial, but I think it makes more sense
> that it's part of how printk console device selection works. Without VTs, while
> most software is able to handle the situation, some userspace programs expect
> /dev/console to still be responsive. Namely systemd. It calls isatty() against
> /dev/console, and since /dev/console on VT-less systems currently defaults to
> /dev/ttyS0, and when /dev/ttyS0 is disconnected, the ioctl's fail, and it
> refuses to write log messages to it.
> 
> There doesn't seem to be a mailing list for printk, so I had to use
> get_maintainer.pl. Hopefully this is correct
> 
> 
> After some grepping and guessing and testing, and playing around Something like
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/Kconfig b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
> index a45d423ad10f..f94a4632aab0 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
> @@ -384,9 +384,12 @@ config NULL_TTY
>  
>           In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this
>           TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull.
> -
>           If unsure, say N.
>  
> +config NULL_TTY_CONSOLE
> +        bool "Supports /dev/ttynull as a console automatically"
> +        depends on NULL_TTY && !VT_CONSOLE
> +
>  config VCC
>         tristate "Sun Virtual Console Concentrator"
>         depends on SUN_LDOMS
> diff --git a/kernel/printk/printk.c b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> index dddb15f48d59..c1554a789de8 100644
> --- a/kernel/printk/printk.c
> +++ b/kernel/printk/printk.c
> @@ -3712,6 +3712,11 @@ void __init console_init(void)
>         initcall_t call;
>         initcall_entry_t *ce;
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE
> +       if (!strstr(boot_command_line, "console="))
> +               add_preferred_console("ttynull", 0, NULL);
> +#endif
> +
>         /* Setup the default TTY line discipline. */
>         n_tty_init();
>  
> 
> 
> 
> seems to work, it conflicts with CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE since it is effectively
> redundant, it is optional, so that it doesn't cause any changes to
> configurations, that historically had CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE turned off in the past,
> and for bootloader configs, it won't change any behavior if the kernel command
> line has a console device specified

What is wrong with just setting the kernel command line for this
instead?

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-18  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <2669238.7s5MMGUR32.ref@nerdopolis2>
2024-08-18  0:09 ` nerdopolis
2024-08-18  1:07   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-08-18  2:31     ` nerdopolis
2024-08-18  5:12       ` Greg KH
2024-08-18 14:33         ` nerdopolis
2024-08-18  5:12   ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-08-18 12:33     ` nerdopolis
2024-08-18 14:30       ` nerdopolis
2024-08-19 15:09         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-08-19 15:50           ` nerdopolis
2024-08-20 13:29             ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-21 17:12               ` nerdopolis
2024-08-22 10:05                 ` Petr Mladek
2024-08-22 12:49                   ` nerdopolis
2024-08-27 12:53                     ` nerdopolis
2024-08-27 13:46                       ` Willy Tarreau
2024-09-12 16:48                         ` nerdopolis
2024-09-12 17:25                           ` Willy Tarreau
2024-09-12 18:46                             ` nerdopolis
2024-09-13  2:22                               ` nerdopolis
2024-09-17 12:54                               ` nerdopolis
2024-10-15 13:26                             ` nerdopolis
2024-09-12 12:29               ` nerdopolis
2024-09-12 13:27                 ` Petr Mladek
2024-10-09  9:24   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2024-10-09 17:49     ` nerdopolis

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