From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Changwoo Min <multics69@gmail.com>
Cc: tj@kernel.org, void@manifault.com, mingo@redhat.com,
changwoo@igalia.com, kernel-dev@igalia.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] sched_ext: Implement scx_bpf_clock_get_ns()
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 20:31:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241116193123.GP22801@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241116160126.29454-4-changwoo@igalia.com>
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 01:01:24AM +0900, Changwoo Min wrote:
> Returns a high-performance monotonically non-decreasing clock for the
> current CPU. The clock returned is in nanoseconds.
>
> It provides the following properties:
>
> 1) High performance: Many BPF schedulers call bpf_ktime_get_ns()
> frequently to account for execution time and track tasks' runtime
> properties. Unfortunately, in some hardware platforms, bpf_ktime_get_ns()
> -- which eventually reads a hardware timestamp counter -- is neither
> performant nor scalable. scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() aims to provide a
> high-performance clock by using the rq clock in the scheduler core
> whenever possible.
>
> 2) High enough resolution for the BPF scheduler use cases: In most BPF
> scheduler use cases, the required clock resolution is lower than the
> most accurate hardware clock (e.g., rdtsc in x86). scx_bpf_clock_get_ns()
> basically uses the rq clock in the scheduler core whenever it is valid.
> It considers that the rq clock is valid from the time the rq clock is
> updated (update_rq_clock) until the rq is unlocked (rq_unpin_lock).
> In addition, it invalidates the rq clock after long operations --
> ops.running() and ops.update_idle() -- in the BPF scheduler.
>
> 3) Monotonically non-decreasing clock for the same CPU:
> scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() guarantees the clock never goes backward when
> comparing them in the same CPU. On the other hand, when comparing clocks
> in different CPUs, there is no such guarantee -- the clock can go backward.
> It provides a monotonically *non-decreasing* clock so that it would provide
> the same clock values in two different scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() calls in the
> same CPU during the same period of when the rq clock is valid.
Have you seen the insides of kernel/sched/clock.c ?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-16 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-16 16:01 [PATCH 0/5] sched_ext: Support high-performance monotonically non-decreasing clock Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 16:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched_ext: Implement scx_rq_clock_update/stale() Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 16:01 ` [PATCH 2/5] sched_ext: Manage the validity of scx_rq_clock Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-17 15:46 ` Changwoo Min
2024-11-18 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 1:19 ` Changwoo Min
2024-11-19 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-19 15:57 ` Changwoo Min
2024-11-27 0:41 ` Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 16:01 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched_ext: Implement scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-11-17 15:48 ` Changwoo Min
2024-11-18 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-16 16:01 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched_ext: Add scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() for BPF scheduler Changwoo Min
2024-11-16 16:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched_ext: Replace bpf_ktime_get_ns() to scx_bpf_clock_get_ns() Changwoo Min
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