From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [90.155.50.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09CAB1D0F79; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732037831; cv=none; b=uBFarg6xVA7G0oW4jdWMtsksj6P7/XoId1toI4bIlwnuOgZB2z9/j1aI8VYLZUwgy5Cc+KCHOC3atz7b7taVQvWJzHZ8jfeJCVptgpt9KvvTqB13DwIlAh5+IME11AeDEsswVRW+SyL7F9EyX8vJpHiYYqiYgR+jqpzmckjwUQQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732037831; c=relaxed/simple; bh=HtPAf28dsfHHDGWo7Boz7Y15Y7dn0tgp/x1gbifoOgw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=hN84sIFVue+cSWrqgiu3uZWQY72FFBapODyBSYfkR+qI5j7ey8MbNy/UsUltGY70c3ykNkmH7Otp7kqpefv57/d4KzjPApoGW57nN6XWFdY7/sfAuqL6m4nHXw02pqax2l0GfAvDjFmHUMXmPaDaEyWdTfPIuxSgP741iKpaXjA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=UQtUNul6; arc=none smtp.client-ip=90.155.50.34 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="UQtUNul6" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=fwyRJIcjvMYWUfC0fV4a9N59ppnlFSHGcp1YD7DqRKA=; b=UQtUNul6T8dGBRrT7qW0+k4gUa is9XediJAqDoOIcvG/Rg0V9vkHdPte5rrxX+L6yTfIuQdG11ksaX+7mMZEmghWxLC7oy1QsB6ly2F y+jfRhnJ6yIa0OOqdVUMKLoxVS94wulmsdTUyu4qlS/K5TN2kgtki6JDDjEYPJf/NZ43zHKSEl2WR ArCs+Iay1dd6pAHhbvxvMeBc495D/hoFuc5avXpQFgvQTW4l2GZrMqd/HQ1raqWCg8fVJXoOM64dS LDThf9Tf//519jZMlYOwH9DqmuDaiPjQTVM81GyjOiJf6Z3wZrbg58Hxcz0/kcUaDRyiUgCeeLuUX BB8bxYRQ==; Received: from j130084.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.130.84] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by casper.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.98 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1tDS9u-00000004Lwj-31MQ; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:37:04 +0000 Received: by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A44333006AB; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 18:37:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 18:37:02 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Christian Loehle , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux PM , LKML , Lukasz Luba , Srinivas Pandruvada , Len Brown , Dietmar Eggemann , Morten Rasmussen , Vincent Guittot , Ricardo Neri Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v0.1 5/6] sched/topology: Allow .setpolicy() cpufreq drivers to enable EAS Message-ID: <20241119173702.GA27509@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <3607404.iIbC2pHGDl@rjwysocki.net> <1889415.atdPhlSkOF@rjwysocki.net> <64a63f1c-088d-43dc-85c3-cecf8b59764f@arm.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 02:54:43PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > Or what about ondemand? Is it alway completely broken with EAS? I thought that thing was mostly considered broken anyway :-) > > For plain (non-intel_pstate) powersave and performance we could replace > > sugov_effective_cpu_perf() > > that determines the OPP of the perf-domain by the OPP they will be > > choosing, but for the rest? > > I generally think that depending on schedutil for EAS is a mistake. Well, the thinking was that we wanted to move to a single governor, and not proliferate things.