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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit __get_user()
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:40:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241121214011.iiup2fdwsys7hhts@jpoimboe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgLCzEwa=S4hZFGeOPjix-1_fDrsqR-QLaBcDM-fgkvhw@mail.gmail.com>

> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 at 15:06, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org> wrote:
> So I think the thing to do is
> 
>  (a) find out which __get_user() it is that matters so much for that load
> 
> Do you have a profile somewhere?
> 
>  (b) convert them to use "unsafe_get_user()", with that whole
> 
>                 if (can_do_masked_user_access())
>                         from = masked_user_access_begin(from);
>                 else if (!user_read_access_begin(from, sizeof(*from)))
>                         return -EFAULT;
> 
>      sequence before it.
> 
> And if it's just a single __get_user() (rather than a sequence of
> them), just convert it to get_user().
> 
> Hmm?

The profile is showing futex_get_value_locked():

int futex_get_value_locked(u32 *dest, u32 __user *from)
{
	int ret;

	pagefault_disable();
	ret = __get_user(*dest, from);
	pagefault_enable();

	return ret ? -EFAULT : 0;
}

That has several callers, so we can probably just use get_user() there?

Also, is there any harm in speeding up __get_user()?  It still has ~80
callers and it's likely to be slowing down things we don't know about.

It's usually only the regressions which get noticed, and that LFENCE
went in almost 7 years ago, when there was much less automated
performance regression testing.

As a bonus, that patch will root out any "bad" users, which will
eventually allow us to simplify things and just make __get_user() an
alias of get_user().

In fact, if we aliased it for all arches, that could help in getting rid
of __get_user() altogether as there would no longer be any (real or
advertised) benefit to using it.

-- 
Josh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-29  1:56 [PATCH v3 0/6] x86/uaccess: avoid barrier_nospec() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit copy_from_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  8:13   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2024-10-30  2:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-30  4:59     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 64-bit __get_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  3:27   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-08 17:12     ` David Laight
2024-11-15 23:06       ` 'Josh Poimboeuf'
2024-11-16  1:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-16 21:38           ` David Laight
2024-11-16 23:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-21 21:40           ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2024-11-21 22:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22  0:12               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-22  1:02                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22  3:11                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-11-22  3:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22  9:06                       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-11-22 18:16                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 19:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22 19:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-24 16:11                           ` David Laight
2024-11-24 18:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-11-22  9:38               ` David Laight
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 32-bit copy_from_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/uaccess: Convert 32-bit get_user() to unconditional pointer masking Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/uaccess: Avoid barrier_nospec() in 32-bit __get_user() Josh Poimboeuf
2024-10-29  1:56 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] x86/uaccess: Converge [__]get_user() implementations Josh Poimboeuf

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