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From: Elliot Berman <elliot.berman@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 28/28] cfi: Use RCU while invoking __module_address().
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:00:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250103101357180-0800.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCJKucZKvFcTQEqbKNUfdYv-upxsH6cmw1=iHUORPFJc+vKHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 04:24:22PM -0800, Sami Tolvanen wrote:
> Hi Elliot,
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 7:33 PM Elliot Berman
> <elliot.berman@oss.qualcomm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 06:41:42PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > __module_address() can be invoked within a RCU section, there is no
> > > requirement to have preemption disabled.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if using rcu_read_lock() will introduce the regression that
> > > has been fixed in commit 14c4c8e41511a ("cfi: Use
> > > rcu_read_{un}lock_sched_notrace").
> > >
> >
> > You can replace the rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace() with guard(rcu)().
> > Regular rcu lock doesn't generate function traces, so the recursive loop
> > isn't possible.
> >
> > I've tested:
> >  - the current kernel (no recursive loop)
> >  - Revert back to rcu_read_lock_sched() (fails)
> 
> Which kernel version did you test? I assume something pre-KCFI as
> arm64 doesn't use this code since v6.1.
> 

Ah, thanks for calling me out. I dug a bit more, I thought I was looking
at a recursive loop in the ftrace buffers, but was actually the expected
behavior. When I tested on the other configurations, the stm dummy
driver hadn't kicked in yet by the time I looked at the ftrace. Indeed,
this function code is not used on arm64.

I experimented with an x86 build as well and I was able to get the hang
I remember seeing after some tweaks to force a CFI failure. Still,
guard(rcu)() is okay by me :)

> >  - Your series as-is (no recurisve loop)
> 
> Note that this patch only adds a comment to is_module_cfi_trap(), so I
> wouldn't expect a functional change.
> 

Agreed I wouldn't expect it to make any issues; I mentioned it for
completeness sake.

Regards,
Elliot

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20 17:41 [PATCH v2 00/28] module: Use RCU instead of RCU-sched Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] module: Extend the preempt disabled section in dereference_symbol_descriptor() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-07 10:58   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] module: Begin to move from RCU-sched to RCU Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] module: Use proper RCU assignment in add_kallsyms() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] module: Use RCU in find_kallsyms_symbol() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] module: Use RCU in module_get_kallsym() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] module: Use RCU in find_module_all() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-02 14:16   ` Petr Mladek
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] module: Use RCU in __find_kallsyms_symbol_value() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] module: Use RCU in module_kallsyms_on_each_symbol() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] module: Remove module_assert_mutex_or_preempt() from try_add_tainted_module() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] module: Use RCU in find_symbol() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] module: Use RCU in __is_module_percpu_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] module: Allow __module_address() to be called from RCU section Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] module: Use RCU in search_module_extables() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] module: Use RCU in all users of __module_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] module: Use RCU in all users of __module_text_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] ARM: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] arm64: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] LoongArch/orc: Use RCU in all users of __module_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] LoongArch: ftrace: Use RCU in all users of __module_text_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-27 17:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-07 17:12     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] powerpc/ftrace: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] x86: Use RCU in all users of __module_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] jump_label: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] jump_label: Use RCU in all users of __module_text_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] bpf: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] kprobes: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] static_call: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] bug: Use RCU instead RCU-sched to protect module_bug_list Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-20 17:41 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] cfi: Use RCU while invoking __module_address() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-12-30 21:13   ` Petr Pavlu
2025-01-02 23:59     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-12-31  3:33   ` Elliot Berman
2025-01-03  0:24     ` Sami Tolvanen
2025-01-06 18:00       ` Elliot Berman [this message]
2025-01-06 21:24         ` Sami Tolvanen
2025-01-07 15:44           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-02 12:47 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] module: Use RCU instead of RCU-sched Christophe Leroy
2025-01-07 15:45   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-07  8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra

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