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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	 "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	 Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
	Oliver Sang <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	 Swapnil Sapkal <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>,
	WangYuli <wangyuli@uniontech.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pipe: don't update {a,c,m}time for anonymous pipes
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:34:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250204-autohandel-gebastelt-0ca4424b697b@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHGptAB1C+vKpfoYo+S9tU2Ow2LWbQeyHKwBpzy9Xh_b=w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 03:21:18PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 2:22 PM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> > These numbers are visible in fstat() but hopefully nobody uses this
> > information and file_accessed/file_update_time are not that cheap.
> 
> I'll note majority of the problem most likely stems from
> mnt_get_write_access rolling with:

So anonymous pipes are based on pipefs which isn't exposed to userspace
at all. Neither the superblock nor an individual mount can go read-only
or change mount properties. The superblock cannot be frozen etc.

So really that mnt_get_write_access() should be pointless for
anonymous pipes. In other words, couldn't this also just be:

diff --git a/fs/pipe.c b/fs/pipe.c
index 8df42e1ab3a3..e9989621362c 100644
--- a/fs/pipe.c
+++ b/fs/pipe.c
@@ -604,12 +604,25 @@ pipe_write(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *from)
        kill_fasync(&pipe->fasync_readers, SIGIO, POLL_IN);
        if (wake_next_writer)
                wake_up_interruptible_sync_poll(&pipe->wr_wait, EPOLLOUT | EPOLLWRNORM);
-       if (ret > 0 && sb_start_write_trylock(file_inode(filp)->i_sb)) {
-               int err = file_update_time(filp);
-               if (err)
-                       ret = err;
-               sb_end_write(file_inode(filp)->i_sb);
+       if (ret > 0) {
+               int err;
+
+               if (!is_anon_pipe(file)) {
+                       if (sb_start_write_trylock(file_inode(filp)->i_sb)) {
+                               err = file_update_time(filp);
+                               if (err)
+                                       ret = err;
+
+                               sb_end_write(file_inode(filp)->i_sb);
+                       }
+               } else {
+                       // Anonymous pipes don't need all the mount + sb bruah.
+                       err = inode_needs_update_time(inode);
+                       if (err > 0)
+                               ret = inode_update_time(file_inode(filp), err);
+               }
        }
+
        return ret;
 }

and then have zero regression risk?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-04 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-04 13:21 Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-04 14:21 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-04 14:39   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-04 16:34   ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-02-04 16:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-04 14:48 ` Jeff Layton
2025-02-04 14:53 ` Jeff Layton
2025-02-04 15:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-04 15:55   ` Oleg Nesterov

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