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From: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] tracing: Have persistent trace instances save KASLR offset
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 09:58:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250207095844.c2d761f3a3588f705e5c5832@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250206102425.2d1f71ad@gandalf.local.home>

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:24:25 -0500
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:22:32 +0900
> Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 05 Feb 2025 17:50:35 -0500
> > Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> > > 
> > > There's no reason to save the KASLR offset for the ring buffer itself.
> > > That is used by the tracer. Now that the tracer has a way to save data in
> > > the persistent memory of the ring buffer, have the tracing infrastructure
> > > take care of the saving of the KASLR offset.
> > >   
> > 
> > Looks good to me. But note that the scratchpad size may not enough for
> > module table later, because 1 module requires at least the name[]
> > (64byte - sizeof(ulong)) and the base address (ulong). This means
> > 1 entry consumes 64byte. Thus there can be only 63 entries + meta
> > data in 4K page. My ubuntu loads 189(!) modules;
> > 
> > $ lsmod | wc -l
> > 190
> > 
> > so we want 255 entries, which requires 16KB.
> 
> So, I was thinking of modifying the allocation of the persistent ring
> buffer, which currently is
> 
> #define ring_buffer_alloc_range(size, flags, order, start, range_size)
> 
> [ it's a macro to add lockdep key information in it ]
> 
> But I should change it to include a scratch size, and allow the tracing
> system to define how much of the range it should allocate for scratch.
> 
> Then we could do:
> 
> 		buf->buffer = ring_buffer_alloc_range(size, rb_flags, 0,
> 						      tr->range_addr_start,
> 						      tr->range_addr_size,
> 						      struct_size(tscratch, entries, 128));
> 
> Which would make sure that the scratch size contains enough memory to hold
> 128 modules.

Yeah, this idea looks godd to me. BTW, the scratch size will be aligned to
the subbuffer size (or page size?)

Thanks,

> 
> -- Steve
> 


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-05 22:50 [PATCH 0/8] ring-buffer/tracing: Save module information in persistent memory Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 1/8] ring-buffer: Use kaslr address instead of text delta Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  0:32   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 2/8] ring-buffer: Add buffer meta data for persistent ring buffer Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  5:10   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 15:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 3/8] ring-buffer: Add ring_buffer_meta_scratch() Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  5:13   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 4/8] tracing: Have persistent trace instances save KASLR offset Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  5:22   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 15:24     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  0:58       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2025-02-07  1:03         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  2:15           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 5/8] module: Add module_for_each_mod() function Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  5:28   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 15:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-10 13:04       ` Petr Pavlu
2025-02-10 14:08         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-14 22:30       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-18 21:21         ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-02-18 21:29           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19  0:24           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 16:02             ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 6/8] tracing: Have persistent trace instances save module addresses Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06  8:26   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 15:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 16:53       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 7/8] tracing: Show module names and addresses of last boot Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  1:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-07  2:02     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  2:25       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-05 22:50 ` [PATCH 8/8] tracing: Update modules to persistent instances when loaded Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 10:01   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 15:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-06 16:53       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 16:58         ` [PATCH 1/3] tracing: Skip update_last_data() if it is already updated Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-06 16:58         ` [PATCH 2/3] tracing: Remove checking the activity when module map is updating Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-03-07 15:21           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-11  0:40             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 16:59         ` [PATCH 3/3] tracing: Show last module text symbols in the stacktrace Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-06 17:46           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  1:50             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-06 17:18         ` [PATCH 8/8] tracing: Update modules to persistent instances when loaded Steven Rostedt
2025-02-07  0:47           ` Masami Hiramatsu

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