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From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Bitao Hu <yaoma@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] DynamicHZ: Configuring the timer tick rate at boot time
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 01:14:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250210011413.whnkxo4modrx6gbc@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250203111433.GF7145@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 02/03/25 12:14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> The whole preemption thing could probably be replaced with HRTICK (which
> might be suffering from bitrot), but the problem has always been with
> hrtimers being too expensive (on x86). But ideally we'd move away from
> tick based preemption.

I do think HRTICK must be on by default. Precise time slices are important.
Especially if your plans to attach changing of base_slice to
sched_attr->runtime are still happening. People will find lots of surprises
when they ask for 500us runtime but end up running (much) longer, especially
with the default 4ms TICK value (which I just posted a patch to change it).

Can we re-evaluate the HRTICK impact?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-28  6:32 John Stultz
2025-01-28  6:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] time/tick: Pipe tick count down through cputime accounting John Stultz
2025-01-28 14:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-01-29  4:10     ` John Stultz
2025-01-28  6:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] time/tick: Introduce a dyn_hz boot option John Stultz
2025-01-28  9:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-28 17:29     ` John Stultz
2025-01-28 19:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-28  6:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] Kconfig: Add CONFIG_DYN_HZ_DEFAULT to specify the default dynhz= boot option value John Stultz
2025-01-28 16:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] DynamicHZ: Configuring the timer tick rate at boot time Thomas Gleixner
2025-01-29  6:10   ` John Stultz
2025-01-29  8:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-02-10 16:54       ` David Laight
2025-02-03 11:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-10  1:14     ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2025-02-10  1:09   ` Qais Yousef

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